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Old 11-02-2010, 04:36 PM   #1
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I miss the way our country was in late fall of 2001. We were united. People showed patriotism and meant it.
Bush certainly squandered that quite spectacularly, when he invaded Iraq and tried to equate support for that to patriotism.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:33 AM   #2
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Bush certainly squandered that quite spectacularly, when he invaded Iraq and tried to equate support for that to patriotism.
Not to mention that bit of exquisite legerdemain where he managed to conflate 9/11 and his old family friend Bin Laden with Al Quaida and Iraq. That was sweet.
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:48 PM   #3
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Bush certainly squandered that quite spectacularly, when he invaded Iraq and tried to equate support for that to patriotism.
Let's see: destruction of unfreedom -- happened when Saddam went fugitive, was later captured, and later hanged. Check.

Replacement of unfree social order with a democratic one. Check. (Corruption problems? Common in Third World countries. Undesirable, the same way measles are undesirable. Not necessarily lethal to the body politic, nor necessarily a reduction thereof, is it?)

And is not liberty a birthright of mankind, attributable to God if you're a believer, however weakly?

Don't sweat the patriotism angle: this was obedience to God, as Ben Franklin put it lo these many years ago.

And some people -- if they really are people and not some kind of possessed meatpuppets -- object to that.
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