The Firing of Juan Williams From NPR - Page 8

Shawnee123 · 10-30-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Well, Shawnee, consider this. Merc and I, we have, or at least pursue, virtue, and you despise us. What would that make you? A precious daughter of God?

And for the general reading pleasure, something Tw will never exhibit the courage to click on: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102104856.html. May cause ratiocination.

You, pursue, virtue. For your own means. That quality isn't virtue, that's egocentricity.

However, it's not you I despise. You're at least an intelligent person. Watch your bedmates, they are not always as virtuous as you.

spudcon · 10-31-2010, 02:23 AM

I had read Krauthammer's article earlier today. Sometimes I don't agree with him, but he nailed it today.

Griff · 10-31-2010, 06:10 AM

The Dems are getting kookie with the paranoid talk. It is just like the GOP Soros talk. The SC did ruin campaign finance but, the real problem is a lot of us voted for Obama in hopes that he'd work across the aisle. Now he'll have to but, the GOP primaries may have given us a bunch who can't work with people of different beliefs. Now we are staring at 2 years of full on asshattery.

Happy Monkey · 11-01-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

the real problem is a lot of us voted for Obama in hopes that he'd work across the aisle.

He tried, far longer than was reasonable. I have no doubt that he'll keep trying, with the same or less effect.

TheMercenary · 11-02-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

The Dems are getting kookie with the paranoid talk. It is just like the GOP Soros talk. The SC did ruin campaign finance but, the real problem is a lot of us voted for Obama in hopes that he'd work across the aisle. Now he'll have to but, the GOP primaries may have given us a bunch who can't work with people of different beliefs. Now we are staring at 2 years of full on asshattery.

The grid lock is about to start in full earnest. Now the burden is on both parties and both Houses to find compromise and make things work. One party is no longer responsible. Both parties will have to make compromises to get the job of the people done. Time will tell. But certainly no one should be fooled to think that progressive liberals are just going to throw partisan bills at the House and wonder why they don't pass...

classicman · 11-01-2010, 10:52 AM

When the R's take over tomorrow, the onus will be on BOTH parties to work together. More so on the R's - IMO.

tw · 11-01-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

When the R's take over tomorrow, the onus will be on BOTH parties to work together. More so on the R's - IMO.

Nonsense. Their agenda was bluntly and publically stated. They want Obama (and America) to fail. Obstructionist rhetoric will continue. Why not? Even with a recession that is over, they still got so many Americans to believe there has been no recovery, that taxes have increased, and that government will never see that $700 billion Tarp. They even got Americans to forget who subverts science, created the destruction of NASA’s manned space program, encouraged wacko Likud to run rampant over Palestinians, invented Mission Accomplished to massacre 4,400 good Americans, surrendered to the Taliban, and let bin Laden run free. How many will apologize for even claiming bin Laden is dead? Why should they. Lying and obstructionism works.

Why should they change? They even got the recession created by Republicans to be blamed on the Democrats. Why change anything? Lying works.

classicman · 11-01-2010, 03:52 PM

Maher noted the news that Mohammed (when its various spellings are combined) is the year's most popular baby name in the United Kingdom.

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Originally Posted by Bill Maher

Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that? Because I am. And it’s not because of the race, it’s because of the religion. I don’t have to apologize, do I, for not wanting the Western world to be taken over by Islam in 300 years? ... I should be alarmed, and I don't apologize for it.

One guest, MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell, responded that Maher's statement was "worse" than Juan Williams' admission of his fears of people wearing Muslim clothes on airplanes.
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I'm not sure how this can be justified any other way. No, Maher doesn't work for NPR and probably doesn't have the same restrictions on opinions, but this is still worse than what Juan said.

Flint · 11-01-2010, 04:00 PM

You only mean "worse" in the way that neither one of them was bad to begin with, right?

xoxoxoBruce · 11-01-2010, 04:00 PM

Yes.

Pico and ME · 11-03-2010, 11:19 PM

I'm thinking that the republicans want the continual tanking of our economy for the next two years...how else are they gonna get the presidency in 2012.

classicman · 11-05-2010, 02:45 PM

Wasn't sure if I should start another thread on this ... Then I figured Olbermann didn't deserve one - soooooooooooooooooooo

Olbermann suspended by MSNBC

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MSNBC host Keith Olbermann has been suspended indefinitely without pay for making political campaign contributions to three Democratic candidates last month, MSNBC president Phil Griffin said in a statement Friday afternoon.

"I became aware of Keith's political contributions late last night," Griffin said. "Mindful of NBC News policy and standards, I have suspended him indefinitely without pay."

Politico first reported Friday morning that the host of "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" gave $2,400 apiece in late October to Kentucky candidate Jack Conway and to Arizona Reps. Raul Grijalva and Gabrielle Giffords. The donation to Grijalva came on the same day the Democratic incumbent appeared on "Countdown," Politico reported.

Conway lost his race against Tea Party favorite Rand Paul. Grijalva was declared the winner in his race late Thursday, and Giffords's had remained too close to call after Election Day.

Olbermann said in a statement to Politico: "I did not privately or publicly encourage anyone else to donate to these campaigns, nor to any others in this election or any previous ones, nor have I previously donated to any political campaign at any level."

from Washpo

Let it be said that I don't like Olbermann at all. I do watch some of MSNBC - Chris Matthews is cough/tolerable/cough and Maddow is usually ok. I do enjoy Morning Joe.

Off the cuff, I think its probably a good decision. But again I really think the guy is jerk so...

Just seems to be a bunch of journalists/hosts/whatever getting canned lately. I'm trying to figure out the connection and who they all pissed off. (conspiracy theory)

Spexxvet · 11-05-2010, 03:02 PM

Meanwhile, Rupert Murdock is bankrolling the repubican party. Different standards for different organizations.

classicman · 11-05-2010, 03:28 PM

Irrelevant. He doesn't host a news show nor is he a journalist.

Why didn't you use Soros as an example?

tw · 11-06-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Irrelevant. He doesn't host a news show nor is he a journalist.

He and all his companies only bankroll Republicans. Then his company called Fox News calls itself 'Fair and Balanced'. At what point does a liar not deserve respect?

Fox New is not a source of news. It is a propaganda machine. So many Fox News people are in an entertainment division. Not part of a news division. Therefore Fox News reporters and commentators can spin stories according to the political agenda - with cover. All part of the purpose of Fox News - propaganda for a political agenda.

Olbermann is part of a news organization. Therefore he must conform to higher standards that include no political contributions.

Fox News employees openly contributed $thousands to Republican candidates. But they are 'Fair and Balanced'?

10-31-2010, 02:23 AM	#2
spudcon Beware of potatoes Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY, USA Posts: 2,078	I had read Krauthammer's article earlier today. Sometimes I don't agree with him, but he nailed it today. __________________ "I believe that being despised by the despicable is as good as being admired by the admirable."

10-31-2010, 06:10 AM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The Dems are getting kookie with the paranoid talk. It is just like the GOP Soros talk. The SC did ruin campaign finance but, the real problem is a lot of us voted for Obama in hopes that he'd work across the aisle. Now he'll have to but, the GOP primaries may have given us a bunch who can't work with people of different beliefs. Now we are staring at 2 years of full on asshattery. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-01-2010, 10:52 AM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	When the R's take over tomorrow, the onus will be on BOTH parties to work together. More so on the R's - IMO. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-01-2010, 04:00 PM	#9
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	You only mean "worse" in the way that neither one of them was bad to begin with, right? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-01-2010, 04:00 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-03-2010, 11:19 PM	#11
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	I'm thinking that the republicans want the continual tanking of our economy for the next two years...how else are they gonna get the presidency in 2012.

11-05-2010, 03:02 PM	#13
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Meanwhile, Rupert Murdock is bankrolling the repubican party. Different standards for different organizations. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

11-05-2010, 03:28 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Irrelevant. He doesn't host a news show nor is he a journalist. Why didn't you use Soros as an example? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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