Cloud's car stuff

[classicman]

I hear you, glatt. I was giving my experience. FWIW - I've owned a grand total of 1 new car in my entire life. I will never do that again without money to burn. (which will be never, given my new life situation)

I can still see where it is basically impossible for some/many to buy a car outright without a loan. Too many do NOT have the discipline to force themselves to save that monthly amount either. I'm not saying its right, just that it is.

And I think monster is more right than not. For example, I know of a family that spends over $600 a month on their cell phones and a couple hundred more on their TV/internet. They have the latest phones all the time and even their youngest kids <10yrs old have phones.
Yes, between phones internet and tv, they spend about $1000 a month.
They are losing their home. The foreclosure should take place mid December.