New CPR

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by monster

There's a good reason to get trained.

One of the primary things they teach you is to look after yourself first and that it's OK to do that. Nobody would expect anybody to do direct mouth-to-mouth on a vomit-caked stranger. Get trained. You'll be reassured and gain confidence, even if you never have to use it. And you have grandbabies now. They need different care. Go do a CPR and first aid course that includes infant and child care. You'll feel empowered.

QFT

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

There will always be a distinction between pre-hospital and hospital based CPR. The current research on pre-hospital CPR as posted is actually based on sound research. You can't compare the apples and oranges of pre-hospital and hospital based CPR with the added element of medical training and lay training. Just a thought.

I wasn't attempting to discount lay CPR training, on the contrary actually. What I was trying to say is that anything that gets people to intervene during a cardiac situation is a good thing in my book. It improves the chances of survival and decreases the possibility of permanent damage to the victim. I'm all for compression only adult CPR to be the new lay standard.

IMO we should have some sort of incentive to the general population to get trained and stayed trained such as getting a tax credit of some sort. Relying on goodwill works fine, but the more the merrier.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

QFT

I'm hoping that means something like Quite Fucking True rather than Queer Frivolous tart -although the latter would be flattering in other circs, I'm sure

[classicman]

Originally Posted by classicman

Lemme check ....


Nope, I'm good.

Originally Posted by Cloud

or disappointed, whichever!

hahahahaha

[Cloud]

I've never been in a situation where I had to do this (fortunately, and doubly fortunately since I've never had the training.) To be honest, I've always been kinda squicked about the mouth to mouth thing; and wondered if I would be willing to do this for someone who had blood or puke or foam in their mouths. I'd do it for my child or someone I loved, but for a stranger? I might hesitate (hangs head in shame). This looks better.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Cloud

I've never been in a situation where I had to do this (fortunately, and doubly fortunately since I've never had the training.) To be honest, I've always been kinda squicked about the mouth to mouth thing; and wondered if I would be willing to do this for someone who had blood or puke or foam in their mouths. I'd do it for my child or someone I loved, but for a stranger? I might hesitate (hangs head in shame). This looks better.

There's a good reason to get trained.

One of the primary things they teach you is to look after yourself first and that it's OK to do that. Nobody would expect anybody to do direct mouth-to-mouth on a vomit-caked stranger. Get trained. You'll be reassured and gain confidence, even if you never have to use it. And you have grandbabies now. They need different care. Go do a CPR and first aid course that includes infant and child care. You'll feel empowered.

[classicman]

^^ Totally agree^^

[Cloud]

I think that's probably good advice

[Clodfobble]

I was also surprised they said not to check for a pulse--if the guy is having a stroke, and you start compressing the shit out of his chest, you're just going to make his heart stop too.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Really? Can't give CPR to a stroke victim?

[Bullitt]

Not unless their heart has stopped. Strokes typically result in a blood vessel blockage in the brain, which then deprives the brain of oxygen. This starves the cells and can lead to permanent brain damage, stoppage of various organs in the body, or death. Strokes do not always lead to the heart stopping, hence why you should absolutely check for a carotid pulse before beginning CPR on anyone. A stroke is basically the same thing as a heart attack just up in your grey goo. For some reason blood flow to a particular area has been interrupted and now the cells are dying.

[Clodfobble]

But more importantly, doing CPR on someone whose heart is beating can cause it to stop. That's why in medical dramas it's always so obvious they're not really pushing on the other actor's chest even the slightest bit. When I was in high school, a group of boys were playing a "let's punch each other as hard as we can in the chest" game, and one of them keeled over dead. True story.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I may have pushed too hard.

[TheMercenary]

Pectus excavatum.