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xoxoxoBruce 10-13-2010 02:22 AM

New CPR
 
New method of CPR is more effective, requires no training/certification, no mouth to mouth, and you can't be held liable.



It's not really new, new, it's been around about 3 years. long enough to show excellent results compared to the old way.

monster 10-13-2010 11:57 AM

They're still training the old way, though, although they suggest this as an alternative action

glatt 10-13-2010 12:11 PM

Yeah, American Red Cross hasn't adopted this new way yet.

Tulip 10-13-2010 12:20 PM

I see it used in TV :D

Clodfobble 10-13-2010 12:57 PM

I like that the rate is the same as the beat to "Stayin' Alive." Whoever figured that out is a mnemonic genius.

BigV 10-13-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 688145)
Yeah, American Red Cross hasn't adopted this new way yet.

Not so.

My recent American Red Cross training *did* include compression only CPR.

From their website:
Quote:

“We are pleased to see that these articles are consistent with and provide additional support for Red Cross guidelines,” says Dr. David Markenson, chair, American Red Cross Advisory Council on First Aid, Aquatics, Safety and Preparedness. “Since 2005 we have recognized Compression-Only CPR as an alternative lifesaving technique for untrained bystanders who witness the sudden collapse of an adult.“

Full CPR is recommended for infants and children since they experience sudden cardiac arrest primarily due to respiratory problems causing a loss of oxygen. Since a child’s oxygen levels in the blood are low at the time of cardiac arrest, they need rescue breaths to improve oxygen levels and aid in resuscitation.

glatt 10-13-2010 02:04 PM

When I got my CPR/AED certification last Fall, they taught the "old" method and did not include this new one. The instructor mentioned it in response to a question, but we didn't practice it on the dummies, and it wasn't on the test or in the handouts.

Cloud 10-13-2010 02:09 PM

probably don't want it spread around, because then they wouldn't make any money on certification and renewals

glatt 10-13-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 688164)
probably don't want it spread around, because then they wouldn't make any money on certification and renewals

Yeah, those rich bastards at the Red Cross are always trying to screw us.
:right:

Cloud 10-13-2010 02:47 PM

No "bastards" were "screwed" in the making of this thread.

or were they?

classicman 10-13-2010 03:21 PM

Lemme check ....


Nope, I'm good.

Cloud 10-13-2010 03:42 PM

or disappointed, whichever!

:)

Bullitt 10-13-2010 04:21 PM

Another piece of the puzzle is that it seems when the general public is given very simple, clear guidelines on how to do compression only CPR, they are much more likely to intervene in a cardiac situation since they are more confident in their abilities. That then leads to higher survival rates since at least something is being done during that golden window where minutes matter until more advanced life support via EMS can arrive and take over. I doubt CPR for the professional rescuer will change since we have access to oxygen, bag-valve masks, airway adjuncts, IV's, drugs, etc. It will be interesting to see where this goes though.

Cloud 10-13-2010 04:26 PM

I've never been in a situation where I had to do this (fortunately, and doubly fortunately since I've never had the training.) To be honest, I've always been kinda squicked about the mouth to mouth thing; and wondered if I would be willing to do this for someone who had blood or puke or foam in their mouths. I'd do it for my child or someone I loved, but for a stranger? I might hesitate (hangs head in shame). This looks better.

classicman 10-13-2010 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 688170)
Lemme check ....


Nope, I'm good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 688172)
or disappointed, whichever!
:)

hahahahaha :3eye:


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