How news is part 2

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think more people are informed on the issue than are not, at least among the people I talk to, take the Cellar, most people know the difference.

The Cellar, while a reflection of the world, has a lot less illiterate people in it.

Seriously, don't you think the bias can also go: all illegals are Mexican, and all Mexicans are illegal. There are way too many people who believe what they hear, especially when it gives them some kind of misguided birthright feeling of superiority.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think more people are informed on the issue than are not, at least among the people I talk to, take the Cellar, most people know the difference.

They have to know the difference to do what I said.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Seriously, don't you think the bias can also go: all illegals are Mexican, and all Mexicans are illegal. There are way too many people who believe what they hear, especially when it gives them some kind of misguided birthright feeling of superiority.

Sure it could go that way. I guess you would have to accept the first premise that "all illegals are Mexican". There are all kinds of bias out there about most hot button issues. I just don't think the majority of people who are invested in understanding where the problems lie in this issue accept that all people who have Mexican heritage are illegal. There are dumb asses everywhere in every state, on every issue. No one has a corner on dumbassedness.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They have to know the difference to do what I said.

No doubt. I just don't think that is the majority.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Sure it could go that way. I guess you would have to accept the first premise that "all illegals are Mexican". There are all kinds of bias out there about most hot button issues. I just don't think the majority of people who are invested in understanding where the problems lie in this issue accept that all people who have Mexican heritage are illegal. There are dumb asses everywhere in every state, on every issue. No one has a corner on dumbassedness.

Dumbasses tend to be the loudest.

Also, there might be a difference in generalizing illegals as Mexicans and being specific about it. I feel a lot of people, I'll admit to doing it once or twice, generalize and imply that illegal aliens are Mexicans but will obviously know its not true when questioned further. People then attack the generalization which was never suppose to be 100% accurate in the first place.....because it's a generalization. Miscommunication issue.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Dumbasses tend to be the loudest.

Also, there might be a difference in generalizing illegals as Mexicans and being specific about it. I feel a lot of people, I'll admit to doing it once or twice, generalize and imply that illegal aliens are Mexicans but will obviously know its not true when questioned further. People then attack the generalization which was never suppose to be 100% accurate in the first place.....because it's a generalization. Miscommunication issue.

I think when it comes to the actual reporting on the issue people are very careful not to generalize about "Mexicans" given the number of Americans with Mexican or Central American roots. The latest news seems to be focused on the immediate cross border town violence and the implications related to it. Pundits have tried to exploit the issue to tie it into the recent laws in AZ and those other borderstates are considering. That may or may not be a fair issue.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

The Cellar, while a reflection of the world, has a lot less illiterate people in it.

The cellar is far more intelligent than the average.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Too many people think this is just about Mexicans, when the illegals they are catching, just catching, are from everywhere... and increasingly from the middle east and Malaysia. The next thing you know the damn Aussies will be sneaking in.

[Shawnee123]

CRAP! Bite your tongue. A dingo ate your alien.

Just keep the Swiss out. Yeah, they're all neutral and stuff, but I hear they're very boring people....(I'm allowed to say that 'cause dad's side from Switzerland.)

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Too many people think this is just about Mexicans, when the illegals they are catching, just catching, are from everywhere... and increasingly from the middle east and Malaysia. The next thing you know the damn Aussies will be sneaking in.

It is interesting to see how the demographics have changed among those they are catching.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think when it comes to the actual reporting on the issue people are very careful not to generalize about "Mexicans" given the number of Americans with Mexican or Central American roots. The latest news seems to be focused on the immediate cross border town violence and the implications related to it. Pundits have tried to exploit the issue to tie it into the recent laws in AZ and those other borderstates are considering. That may or may not be a fair issue.

News reporters are going to be careful about it. I was talking more informally. But, it comes down to interpretation too. If you say illegal alien most people are going to think Hispanic. That interpretation can't be avoided in most instances.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

News reporters are going to be careful about it. I was talking more informally. But, it comes down to interpretation too. If you say illegal alien most people are going to think Hispanic. That interpretation can't be avoided in most instances.

That is true, I guess I was being pendantic considering the term "Mexican".

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

The Cellar, while a reflection of the world, has a lot less illiterate people in it. ...

There's a huge contingent of illiterate people in the Cellar. They just don't read or write so you don't notice them.