What would Martin Niemoller think about Arizona?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Hmmm

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Hmmm

Well that certainly puts another nail in that coffin of public opinion supporting immigration reform.

[Spexxvet]

How would it be different if the same law was applied to illegal drugs or illegal handguns? "You look suspiciously like you have illegal drugs or an illegal handgun on your person. Prove that you don't."

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

How would it be different if the same law was applied to illegal drugs or illegal handguns? "You look suspiciously like you have illegal drugs or an illegal handgun on your person. Prove that you don't."

They already do that for anyone they have detained, no different from this law.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They already do that for anyone they have detained, no different from this law.

I dont think it is the same at all.

Legislating or regulating the criminal possession of guns and drugs are within the purview of the states.

Being an illegal immigrant is a federal crime. AZ is attempting to make it a state crime with restrictions above the federal law (that a person can be questioned about immigration status w/o being held for other crimes).

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Being an illegal immigrant is a federal crime. AZ is attempting to make it a state crime with restrictions above the federal law (that a person can be questioned about immigration status w/o being held for other crimes).

The restrictions are the same as what the feds can do. They can still question someone about thier immigration status and hold them for that reason alone. ICE does it everyday. The threshold in the AZ law is lower, they can only do this if they are being detained or stopped for other reasons.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The restrictions are the same as what the feds can do. They can still question someone about thier immigration status and hold them for that reason alone. ICE does it everyday. The threshold in the AZ law is lower, they can only do this if they are being detained or stopped for other reasons.

No....under the AZ law, the police can question a person on immigration status based solely on "reasonable suspicion" of being illegal with NO other reason for having been detained. This is a higher threshold than current federal immigration law.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Hmmm

Maybe real. Maybe a plant, 'shopped, or sarcasm from an opponent. Is there any more info on this?