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Old 06-18-2010, 09:04 PM   #136
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Good

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Old 06-18-2010, 09:14 PM   #137
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you should have posted :

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Old 06-18-2010, 09:19 PM   #138
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I would like to say that many of the people discussed here have been especially kind and/or helpful to me, personally. Mostly because I deliberately do not engage their rant button.

But I really don't know how to manage the political discussions without making everybody crazy. IMO, it's the nature of the beast, which is why I don't usually participate either here or in real life.

Based on my experience in other fora, I probably view moderators differently so I'll quite suggesting that.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:20 PM   #139
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Good

Fucking

God.
Wait what? G0d was in pr0n?
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:39 PM   #140
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I would like to say that many of the people discussed here have been especially kind and/or helpful to me, personally. Mostly because I deliberately do not engage their rant button.

But I really don't know how to manage the political discussions without making everybody crazy. IMO, it's the nature of the beast, which is why I don't usually participate either here or in real life.

Based on my experience in other fora, I probably view moderators differently so I'll quite suggesting that.

I like your discussions. You have good questions and ideas. When it gets heated you withdraw. I can respect your reasons for doing so.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:44 PM   #141
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it's not a popular stance here, but maybe we could use a bit more of it in the political discussion threads.

Most of the time, you're not going to change the other people's viewpoints anyway, so--state your viewpoint, discuss it, but don't keep beating at it and inflating the passions of the participants past the point of reason.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:52 PM   #142
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I am not defending my actions. I am guilty of being an ass. Right now, I don't care anymore - I'm disgusted, both with myself and in general. I've been rereading a lot of what I have posted and I'm embarrassed. It is so contrary to the person I am IRL. I've even been discussing this with several current and past dwellars over the last few months. I've censored myself the best I can by putting them all on ignore.

I'd like to know if Merc and Redux have any of this same feeling. Do either of you feel at all culpable, or embarrassed that there is this type of backlash attributed to your behavior? Will you make any attempt to modify your posting habits?

Or is this seen as unfair persecution and infringement upon your rights to freedom of speech?
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:52 PM   #143
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Hmmmm.... I will have to think about that for a bit.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:56 PM   #144
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I'd like to know if Merc and Redux have any of this same feeling. Do either of you feel at all culpable, or embarrassed that there is this type of backlash attributed to your behavior? Will you make any attempt to modify your posting habits?

Or is this seen as unfair persecution and infringement upon your rights to freedom of speech?
Culpable...sure. I said as much repeatedly. Embarrassed? Only to the extent that I should have let go of some discussions sooner rather than later and I will keep that in mind....and one set of comments went too far and, as I said, was inappropriate. With regard to most of my posts, not particularly embarrassed at all.

I agree with what both Dana and Jinx posted recently. It was helpful to hear what most had to say and I take it seriously. On the other hand, I got a good laugh out of a few of the others.
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Old 06-18-2010, 10:58 PM   #145
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Or is this seen as unfair persecution and infringement upon your rights to freedom of speech?
Yes and no.

The angst and double standard is disturbing by those of specific political leanings is quite disturbing, as a measure of setting the benchmark for normalcy and acceptable posting. On one hand if you agree with a liberal point of view I am the enemy, if you have any view contrary, I am the enemy. That is quite disturbing.

Let me mull it over.

In the end, as it seems the overwhelming feeling is that I am "troll", not just a person with contraray opinions, who is not willing to buy into the party propaganda, is also quite disturbing.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:03 PM   #146
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Well part of it is your style, which is dismissive without any further real dialogue. I was disappointed when you did not accept a moderated discussion.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:16 PM   #147
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Well part of it is your style, which is dismissive without any further real dialogue. I was disappointed when you did not accept a moderated discussion.
I fully understand your point but I just couldn't see the value in having a discussion with a person that I disagree with on so many levels. I believe Redux is a plant whose only purpose is to disrupt and put out the Demoncratic point of view. Very little will be and has been gleemed from any exchange of views other than White House talking points and propaganda. If you look at the websites that support the Dems nearly everthing he says is right out of a playbook.... so what is the point?

I do not expect to change his mind and he should not expect to change mine. He is a tool of the Demoncrats, put here to expouse the propaganda of the Demoncrats. I hate all of them. Republickins and Demoncrats alike, it just so happens the Dems are in charge and have been for the last 4 years, so they get the blame and responsibility for all our ills. Tough shit, sucks to be in charge....
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:23 PM   #148
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I fully accept my responsibility but please note:

!. I contribute to the whole site.

2. I confine my issues to the current events and politics website and I have been rightly called out for transgressions which poured over to other threads, and I immediately stopped the discussion, which includes chat.

3. I have confined my angst to one other poster whom I believe is a political hack.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:25 PM   #149
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so even here, in this thread, you can't help it. you need to sit a few plays out and reflect, bub.
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Old 06-18-2010, 11:27 PM   #150
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For the record, I am not a plant or "put" here by anyone...nor do I have any affiliation with the Obama administration, the DNC or the Democratic party, other than being a registered Democrat.

UT...I would be happy to have a moderated discussion on posting styles if you think that would be helpful.
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