What would Martin Niemoller think about Arizona?

Originally Posted by classicman

I believe the law specifically prohibits race from being a factor.

I never asked you to back up your opinion, just the part of the bill where it states that race can be used.

I believe that law does not specifically and totally prohibit race from being a factor.

In fact, in the final version, after sending the bill to the governor, the state did remove the language that race cannot be the sole factor in determining reasonable suspicion in an attempt to affirm that there will not be racial profiling.....but what remains is the language "except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution."

Which still leave many unanswered questions (the Supreme has ruled in the past that profiling is legal under very limited circumstances, after which the Appeals Court for the district of AZ, in another ruling. said it is not legal)...as does the issue of what constitutes reasonable suspicion.

If not race, then what...the fact that a cop may hear someone speaking Spanish? or as one official suggested, by the clothes one wears?

I'm curious...what would you consider to be factors of reasonable suspicion? And what is to prevent the cops from using race...just the fact that the law says they cant?

Do you honestly believe that the cops will be asking Anglos to provide documentation of their citizenship at a level equal to Hispanics...when not being detained for questioning related to another crime?

I said repeated that it was my opinion that the law raises constitutional issues......and I stand by that.

Oh, and as to AZ being majority white....58-59% is a majority where I come from.