Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Redux

The courts have ruled that schools can impose dress codes that may limit the students' right of expression to wear whatever the hell they want.

Yes they can, but it has to be uniform, and can't be imposed in the middle of the damn day.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Yes they can, but it has to be uniform, and can't be imposed in the middle of the damn day.

In regards to a dress code, I was responding to lookout's post about a young lady and her skirt and vagina.

But, the fact is, neither of us know if the policy prohibits wearing bandannas.

Five kids attending Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Calif., decided to wear patriotic clothing (T-shirts and bandannas with the American flag on them) on Cinco de Mayo. Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez told them that the clothing was inappropriate for the holiday and to ditch the bandannas and turn their shirts inside out or go home.

You are making assumptions here.

That the five kids acted out of patriotism, rather than to be provocative. You dont know that.

In fact, we dont anything about these five kids, other then that they acted collectively. Are they model students? Have they had or provoked confrontations with Hispanic students in the past? Are there tensions in the school between Anglo students and Hispanic students? We dont know any of the answers. Presumably, the Asst. Principal does.

And, with the bolding, it appears that you are assuming or inferring that the Asst Principal acted based on his own ethnicity rather than out of concern for safety.

The Asst. Principal made a judgment call....perhaps, bad judgment...but none of us know all the facts.

One fact we do know, the school had a recent history of problems with intolerance and attacks (physical and verbal) against minorities...at the time, it was against gays/lesbian students.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez, would be a pretty good reason why he thought it was a holiday.

Their reasons for wearing those clothes doesn't matter, they were within their rights to do so.

[Spexxvet]

What a bunch of assholes

[Spexxvet]

Live Oak dress code

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

But, the fact is, neither of us know if the policy prohibits wearing bandannas.

see below

That the five kids acted out of patriotism, rather than to be provocative. You dont know that.
Are they model students?
Have they had or provoked confrontations with Hispanic students in the past?
We dont know any of the answers. Presumably, the Asst. Principal does.

at least two of the boys wearing the American flag T-shirts have Mexican ancestry.

And, with the bolding, it appears that you are assuming or inferring that the Asst Principal acted based on his own ethnicity rather than out of concern for safety.

You are the one making assumptions.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez, would be a pretty good reason why he thought it was a holiday.
Their reasons for wearing those clothes doesn't matter, they were within their rights to do so.

from the dress code -

Specific Inappropriate Dress Includes: Doo rags or bandanas of any color

There was no justification for telling the students to invert their shirts according to the dress code.

Originally Posted by classicman

see below



You are the one making assumptions.

from the dress code -
There was no justification for telling the students to invert their shirts according to the dress code.

What was your point in bolding the Asst. Principal's name? Other than to point out that he is Hispanic. Why is that relevant unless you are pre-judging? Pre-judging = prejudice.

And...so the kids "said" they acted out of patriotism and not to be confrontational. Kids never lie when they are confronted? One news report said the kids taunted Hispanic students before being called to the principals office....of course, the kids denied it.

You dont know what happened any more than me.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

...There was no justification for telling the students to invert their shirts according to the dress code.

However, any clothing or decoration which detracts from the learning environment is prohibited. The school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other clothes, be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action.

There's enough wiggle room there satisfy the lawyers, IMHO.