Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by classicman

I don't believe that at all. This has PC written all over it and its bullshit.

Do you have anything backing that up or is it just that you want to believe that it is PC bullshit? I personally know of schools where students would have resorted to violence or something else that would have made the situation worse. Does that mean every situation is like that? No. But as we both admit, we have no idea.

I don't really care that much and if you want to agree to disagree thats fine but my point is that there are schools where this would be a legitimate safety issue so its not that outlandish that this is not about political correctness.

Originally Posted by classicman

And we don't know anything about the other kids, except they are "Mexican Americans." Are they into human trafficing. prostitution, drugs gun running??? We don't know squat about either side.

Of course we don't. Thats why I never made a definite statement. This could be political correct bullshit or it could be a legitimate safety concern.

Originally Posted by classicman

To call these kids out for wearing the US flag on their shirts IN THE US because its another country's holiday is complete and utter BS. That guy should be fired - that is the appropriate action.

Fire a guy every time an administrator makes controversial decision? That's laughable. C'mon, this guy probably would have taken shit no matter what he did. If he let the guys wear the shirt he would have been called culturally insensitive and is not fit to work at school with a large amount of students of Mexican ethnicity.

Originally Posted by Flint

What is the "act" that you refer to? I think it is important to the realization of a fully formed idea that it's constituent parts can be specified. I propose, unless you have some additional points that you have not brought forward, that you are referring to the act of thoughtcrime.

I realize this is "thoughtcrime" or whatever and I will say this again. I am not offended by it and disagree with those who will resort to violence because of it. But, it does happen. Thats one reason why I don't disagree with the school's decision s to make the kids take off their shirts. If it was another situation, I would be on your side of the argument.

Originally Posted by Flint

Again, you can't take action simply because you think someone is being a dick. There has to be a tangible offense.

That is not my position. I purposely mentioned that I am not offended by the action. My position is the there is a possibility that the action of wearing a shirt and bandanna with an American flag on it on Cinco de Mayo (is that the answer you were looking for?) could lead to violence and administrators possibility made the decision to avoid violence in their school, which would negatively affect students.

I will say this once again. I am willing to accept that it is political correct bullshit my stance is that this is not the case. We know nothing about the school so there is no possible way to know which is the case.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Do you have anything backing that up or is it just that you want to believe that it is PC bullshit? I personally know of schools where students would have resorted to violence or something else that would have made the situation worse. Does that mean every situation is like that? No. But as we both admit, we have no idea.

I don't really care that much and if you want to agree to disagree thats fine but my point is that there are schools where this would be a legitimate safety issue so its not that outlandish that this is not about political correctness.

Of course we don't. Thats why I never made a definite statement. This could be political correct bullshit or it could be a legitimate safety concern.

Fire a guy every time an administrator makes controversial decision? That's laughable. C'mon, this guy probably would have taken shit no matter what he did. If he let the guys wear the shirt he would have been called culturally insensitive and is not fit to work at school with a large amount of students of Mexican ethnicity.

I realize this is "thoughtcrime" or whatever and I will say this again. I am not offended by it and disagree with those who will resort to violence because of it. But, it does happen. Thats one reason why I don't disagree with the school's decision s to make the kids take off their shirts. If it was another situation, I would be on your side of the argument.

That is not my position. I purposely mentioned that I am not offended by the action. My position is the there is a possibility that the action of wearing a shirt and bandanna with an American flag on it on Cinco de Mayo (is that the answer you were looking for?) could lead to violence and administrators possibility made the decision to avoid violence in their school, which would negatively affect students.

I will say this once again. I am willing to accept that it is political correct bullshit my stance is that this is not the case. We know nothing about the school so there is no possible way to know which is the case.

I agree with you.

IMO, without knowing all the facts or circumstances, this was 5 kids who acted collectively to make a statement on a day they knew might be provocative.

Did the school admin over-react? Perhaps. Is there over-reaction on the side? Perhaps. (Sue the school? On what grounds?)

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

If he let the guys wear the shirt he would have been called culturally insensitive and is not fit to work at school with a large amount of students of Mexican ethnicity.

Well it's high time these fuckers decide whether they are mexicans or Americans.
Oh, and no hyphenated bullshit, get off the fucking fence.