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Old 04-26-2010, 10:51 PM   #1
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So if I come to the US and allegedly commit a crime, do I not have the right to innocence until proven guilt?
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:54 PM   #2
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So if I come to the US and allegedly commit a crime, do I not have the right to innocence until proven guilt?
Sure you do, and you have the Right to go to jail, and then be deported. Limited Rights.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:55 PM   #3
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So if I come to the US and allegedly commit a crime, do I not have the right to innocence until proven guilt?
You have a right to free speech, a right to be protected from search and seizure, the right to habeus corpus, the right to equal protection under the law, etc.
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Old 04-26-2010, 10:58 PM   #4
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Sure you do, and you have the Right to go to jail, and then be deported. Limited Rights.
Well, provided I was proven guilty of course.

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You have a right to free speech, a right to be protected from search and seizure, the right to habeus corpus, etc.
Yes but only if there's no evidence to suggest I've committed a crime, otherwise the police have the right to search as much as they like, just like a US citizen.
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:01 PM   #5
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Yes but only if there's no evidence to suggest I've committed a crime, otherwise the police have the right to search as much as they like, just like a US citizen.
The right to search and seizure is limited in the same manner for non-citizens and citizens.....probable cause.
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:10 PM   #6
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Well, provided I was proven guilty of course.
Of course. And if you were detained and found to be here illegally you should be deported, as I would if I was in found to be in Aus illegally. And we should support our police to do the same.
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:13 PM   #7
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Of course. And if you were detained and found to be here illegally you should be deported, as I would if I was in found to be in Aus illegally. And we should support our police to do the same.
Well if you were here illegally and declared yourself a refugee, you'd have to spend a fair amount of time in a refugee camp before anything would happen to you.
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:15 PM   #8
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Well if you were here illegally and declared yourself a refugee, you'd have to spend a fair amount of time in a refugee camp before anything would happen to you.
See now that is what we need!

Refugee Camps. Just like in Hong Kong. And I have been to two of them.

Do you think the Bleeding Hearts on here would support that idea?
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