What would Martin Niemoller think about Arizona?

[lumberjim]

But the spirit of this law is not to invade our privacy, or force us to 'carry papers'. It's to make it easier for Illegal Aliens to be caught. Because they are Illegal. They can't be 'persecuted' like the poem above's author.... they don't have any rights in this country if they are here illegally. Logically speaking, not practically of course.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

Logically speaking, not practically of course.

Therein lies the rub. At least they are doing something. That is more than the the past administrations have done. But again, until we control our own borders nothing will really change.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

My point is if people other than those targeted by this law don't speak out against it, pretty soon, it won't be long before we get targeted by similar laws and there won't be anyone around to speak out for us.

Regardless what happens in this case, that scenario is in the future for everyone in this country. As the world population increases, and with it competition for resources, and the radical Islamic factions get more aggressive, it'll become a necessity.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

...Because they are Illegal. They can't be 'persecuted' like the poem above's author.... they don't have any rights in this country if they are here illegally. Logically speaking, not practically of course.

As soon as they sneak on the American soil, the scumbags have all kinds of constitutional protections.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

But the spirit of this law is not to invade our privacy, or force us to 'carry papers'.

Not "us", just people worried a cop might think they seem illegal. If you look real legal, you don't need papers.

[glatt]

We're going to the Grand Canyon in August. Does this new law mean we need to travel with our passports to Arizona? I can't find anything anywhere that says what Arizona considers to be proof of citizenship. We're white and speak English well, but it will be summer time and we might all be a little tan by then.

Do we need our passports? If I don't have my passports, and a cop pulls me over for speeding or something, are they legally able to detain us all for a few days while we dig up proof that we are legal?

[jinx]

Driver's license should do it if you get pulled over for speeding glatt. And unless your kids start screaming about you not being their father/parents they shouldn't arouse suspicion...