Pedophilia Irish Style

[Cloud]

which is why I don't like organized religion much

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

and ALL churches are against that.

thank you.

[Spexxvet]

But especially the Roman Catholic ChurchJ/K

[jinx]

Originally Posted by Cloud

People can be indignent and righteous all they want by pointing fingers, but this is a wider problem, and the wider problem is not being addressed, because people don't want to believe this is happening in their backyard, in their homes, in their neighborhood, to their own loved ones.

I disagree. People who work in schools or with children are now required to have a criminal background and child abuse check thru their state police. People talk to their kids now, not just about 'stranger danger' but about who's allowed to touch their bodies and where and why. People ARE willing to believe this shit happens, and they are more involved with their kid's lives because of it. That's why kids are involved in so many activities these days, often with their parents involved right there with them. That's why kids have play dates instead of just roaming wild in the streets.

The foster care system? You're going to compare that to a church? Odd, but... I do see the failures of the foster care system brought to light on the news frequently, as they should be. I don't see people saying things like "I'm a good social worker" like it makes them a better person with a stronger moral compass than those they are comparing themselves to.

[squirell nutkin]

As a recovered Catholic I'll say that, reprehensible as it is, condoning kid boinking is among the least of the church's transgressions.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin

As a recovered Catholic I'll say that, reprehensible as it is, condoning kid boinking is among the least of the church's transgressions.

I suppose you say that for effect, but I think you should reconsider. How on earth could condoning kid boinking be low on ANY list of transgressions.

how many things are worse?

[squirell nutkin]

Not for effect and I will work on a short catalog of the church's major transgressions throughout history. But to whet your appetite, head on back to the inquisition or read up on the case of
Peter Stumpp:

His execution is one of the most brutal on record: He was put to the wheel, where flesh was torn from his body, in ten places, with red-hot pincers, followed by his arms and legs. Then his limbs were broken with the blunt side of an axehead to prevent him from returning from the grave, before he was beheaded and burned on a pyre. His daughter and mistress had already been flayed, raped, and strangled and were burned alive along with Stumpp's body. As a warning against similar behavior, local authorities erected a pole with the torture wheel and the figure of a wolf on it, and at the very top they placed Peter Stumpp's severed head.

There's plenty more where that came from, and it was all duplicity in service of cementing power under the guise holiness. The church has battled science and reason because frightened people are much easier to manipulate and control. Can you imagine what things would be like if people still believed in witches and werewolves?

[Cloud]

it would be nice to think that the wider problem of sexual misconduct with minors is being addressed adequately in our society. Sadly, I know from personal, direct experience, it is not. Not enough, anyway.

[squirell nutkin]

Then there's the charming story of The Nuns of Loudun Another political power play resulting in torture, madness, death. Ken Russel's film, The Devils is based on the story.

[lumberjim]

still..... condoning pedophilia in this day and age is RIGHT THE FUCK UP THERE

[squirell nutkin]

OK, I get your point, cheating old ladies out of their pensions by fixing bingo games is probably among the least, and yes the pedo thing is right up there, but I think I meant among the things right up there, it's not at the top of the top, well, maybe it is really fucked up to try to compare anything in the top of the list.

The whole thing is fucked up.

[classicman]

gotta be in the top on anyone's list

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin

OK, I get your point, cheating old ladies out of their pensions by fixing bingo games is probably among the least, and yes the pedo thing is right up there, but I think I meant among the things right up there, it's not at the top of the top, well, maybe it is really fucked up to try to compare anything in the top of the list.

The whole thing is fucked up.

we're here:

:: points at his forehead...then at yours, then back at his, then back at yours::




if I make a smile for this....would you vote for it?

[HungLikeJesus]

Philadelphia.

Pedophilia.

See what I mean?

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin

Then there's the charming story of The Nuns of Loudun Another political power play resulting in torture, madness, death. Ken Russel's film, The Devils is based on the story.

One of my heroes, Derek Jarman, was the Set Designer for that film.
When I read his biography I cry at the end. Even though I (obviously!) know how it ends.
Great talent, taken too soon.

Anyway, as you were.