Army to court martial 'birther' officer - Page 2

Spexxvet · 04-14-2010, 04:37 PM

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How did you come to that conclusion?

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I certainly respect your opinion. But that is the new mantra of the left-wing nuts, anyone who disagrees with Obama is now called a racist. I think that is a huge mistake and is only stated to stifle anyone who disagrees with his policies.

How else would you explain that some people are closed-minded when it comes to Obama's citizenship, which has been resolved enough times to satisfy a moron, but closed minded in the opposite way when it came to McCain's citizenship?

TheMercenary · 04-14-2010, 04:37 PM

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It's like they can't believe that this person of mixed heritage represents the good ol USof A to the world.

There is no evidence to support that notion.

TheMercenary · 04-14-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

How else would you explain that some people are closed-minded when it comes to Obama's citizenship, which has been resolved enough times to satisfy a moron, but closed minded in the opposite way when it came to McCain's citizenship?

Because they are morons, not because they are racist. There is no evidence to support that.

Cloud · 04-14-2010, 04:40 PM

Maybe not, but this is the feeling I get from their rhetoric. I'll have to think on this some more, I guess.

Spexxvet · 04-14-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Because they are morons, not because they are racist. There is no evidence to support that.

There's as much evidence that they're racists as there is that they're morons.

Cloud · 04-14-2010, 04:54 PM

okay; maybe they're just very persistent garden-variety nutcases

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birther

Happy Monkey · 04-14-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I certainly respect your opinion. But that is the new mantra of the left-wing nuts, anyone who disagrees with Obama is now called a racist. I think that is a huge mistake and is only stated to stifle anyone who disagrees with his policies.

Birtherism doesn't involve disagreeing with Obama or his policies. It is the disbelief that the first black PotUS is legitimate.

He's not the first PotUS with an immigrant parent.

Cloud · 04-14-2010, 05:14 PM

and not the first president to be investigated for not being a natural born citizen either, apparently.

Maybe it's just so incomprehensible to me, that I label these people with the worst thing I can think of. That's probably a mistake on my part.

TheMercenary · 04-14-2010, 05:29 PM

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Birtherism doesn't involve disagreeing with Obama or his policies. It is the disbelief that the first black PotUS is legitimate.

He's not the first PotUS with an immigrant parent.

It is not about racism. The lines are blurred by those who wish to discredit anyone who disagrees with Obama. It is false to make it a race issue.

TheMercenary · 04-14-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

There's as much evidence that they're racists as there is that they're morons.

Prove it.

Happy Monkey · 04-14-2010, 05:33 PM

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It is not about racism. The lines are blurred by those who wish to discredit anyone who disagrees with Obama. It is false to make it a race issue.

Like I said, birtherism isn't about disagreeing with Obama. It is about claiming that he's not a legitimate president, based solely on the fact that his father was African.

TheMercenary · 04-14-2010, 05:38 PM

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Like I said, birtherism isn't about disagreeing with Obama. It is about claiming that he's not a legitimate president, based solely on the fact that his father was African.

I don't believe that involves a feeling of racism, that was my only point. I think if his father was from Sweden these people would be making the same claim, regardless of his color. I personally am proud that we have elected a true African American as President. I think it was a huge statement as to who far we have come as a nation. Even if I don't agree with 75% of his policy.

Cloud · 04-14-2010, 05:40 PM

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I think if his father was from Sweden these people would be making the same claim, regardless of his color.

I do not. Maybe I don't have any proof, but I still feel that way. Is that a blonde moment? Dunno, but feel free to blame that, if you want.

Spexxvet · 04-14-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Because they are morons, not because they are racist. There is no evidence to support that.

Prove it.

TheMercenary · 04-14-2010, 05:42 PM

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Prove it.

I never made the claim that they were racist. You support it. The burden is on you. But I know you can't....

04-14-2010, 04:40 PM	#19
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Maybe not, but this is the feeling I get from their rhetoric. I'll have to think on this some more, I guess. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

04-14-2010, 04:54 PM	#21
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	okay; maybe they're just very persistent garden-variety nutcases http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birther __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

04-14-2010, 05:14 PM	#23
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	and not the first president to be investigated for not being a natural born citizen either, apparently. Maybe it's just so incomprehensible to me, that I label these people with the worst thing I can think of. That's probably a mistake on my part. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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