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Old 01-31-2010, 10:50 AM   #1
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Your use of the word implies that you support that notion.

Nope. But I think some of the people prosecuting the war (particularly during the l;ast administration) and indeed some of the people who support it have veered dangerously close to that. A llot of rhetoric about 'clash of civilizations' tends to support that hypothesis; as does the amount of people who currently seem to equate 'moslem' with 'terrorist' and 'Islam' with 'terrorism'.

personally I have a more prosaic view. I think it was fuck all to do with Christianity and fuck all to do with terrorism either. Given that Iraq and saddam had no connection to 9/11; I think 'we' went into there for entirely selfish reasons, more to do with gain and politics than anything else.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:01 AM   #2
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Nope. But I think some of the people prosecuting the war (particularly during the l;ast administration) and indeed some of the people who support it have veered dangerously close to that. A llot of rhetoric about 'clash of civilizations' tends to support that hypothesis; as does the amount of people who currently seem to equate 'moslem' with 'terrorist' and 'Islam' with 'terrorism'.
Keep in mind that it was a solid way to get support from large parts of the country. I don't think that our past few administrations would do anything close to a "crusade" but it would be an easier way to justify and gain support for war.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:09 AM   #3
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Keep in mind that it was a solid way to get support from large parts of the country. I don't think that our past few administrations would do anything close to a "crusade" but it would be an easier way to justify and gain support for war.
Actually it is a term not used to justify the wars in any manner at all. It is a term used to vilify those who conducted it. Period.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:19 AM   #4
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Actually it is a term not used to justify the wars in any manner at all. It is a term used to vilify those who conducted it. Period.
I didn't mean the word crusade in my post, my bad. I meant the language and rhetoric used that made people think the administration were going for a crusade. That was used to gain support for the war.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:07 AM   #5
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Nope. But I think some of the people prosecuting the war (particularly during the l;ast administration) and indeed some of the people who support it have veered dangerously close to that. A llot of rhetoric about 'clash of civilizations' tends to support that hypothesis; as does the amount of people who currently seem to equate 'moslem' with 'terrorist' and 'Islam' with 'terrorism'.

personally I have a more prosaic view. I think it was fuck all to do with Christianity and fuck all to do with terrorism either.
Can't agree or disagree entirely.


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Given that Iraq and saddam had no connection to 9/11
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I think 'we' went into there for entirely selfish reasons, more to do with gain and politics than anything else.
What were those reasons as you understand them?
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