WWJK: Who would Jesus Kill - Military supplier adds bible references to rifle sights - Page 5

Pico and ME · 01-21-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

Isn't the soldier the killing machine? The gun is just a making holes in things machine...

Aw Jeez...semantics already...

Pico and ME · 01-21-2010, 07:11 PM

Its not a major issue to me and I really dont care if our soldiers have to use weapons with bible verses on them or not, but it leaves me feeling uneasy, because it does imply to me (an atheist) that the killing done with these weapons is religiously sanctioned, and I just never thought we still did that. But I guess we do.

Bullitt · 01-21-2010, 07:20 PM

Gee I didn't know sights were considered weapons now. The notion that there are "weapons with bible verses on them" is false. The sight is a piece of equipment, akin to a pair of binoculars, flashlight, backpack, tent, MRE, etc. etc. If these were stamped on the weapon itself, then I could potentially see a problem since the weapon itself is the means to which the military projects force. Not a harmless attachment.

Pico and ME · 01-21-2010, 07:21 PM

FFS...they are rifle sights. Honestly.

But OK, I get it that it wasnt intentional. That this company does it on all its stuff (right?). Its just an unfortunate turn of events that put these particular sights on US military rifles.

Its still eerie from my perspective.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-21-2010, 07:26 PM

yeah, but they could be used for checking out the showers of the opposite sex.

Pico and ME · 01-21-2010, 07:29 PM

Hee Hee...is there an appropriate bible verse for that?

Bullitt · 01-21-2010, 07:29 PM

Yes the company puts these on many of their products, and has been doing so long before the military ever started buying them. I just have a hard time seeing how this is any different then lets say if all the MRE packages had verses printed on them. Neither are weapons, however both are used by the military to enhance their ability to wage war. But I highly doubt the same stink would be raised if it was MREs instead of rifle sights.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-21-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Hee Hee...is there an appropriate bible verse for that?

No, but it's a religious experience, even if it falls under don't ask don't tell.

Happy Monkey · 01-21-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

But I highly doubt the same stink would be raised if it was MREs instead of rifle sights.

Why do you doubt that?

lookout123 · 01-21-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Screw you Lookout, According to this...

...you dont really want to know. If you dont see my point, why should I care to explain it to you after that?

AAAh, well then - Fuck You Pico. You made a statement. I said I didn't get it. You made another statement that didn't explain it. I said I didn't get it. You don't want to explain what you meant, that's fine but just say so.

capnhowdy · 01-21-2010, 08:34 PM

A soldier's objective is to eliminate the enemy. I never looked AT my scope.... I looked THROUGH it.

squirell nutkin · 01-21-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Hee Hee...is there an appropriate bible verse for that?

Yeah, I think Monster said that's what Song of Solomon was all about. But there are no pictures, so...

BUT! had they had the scopes then there might have been pictures if they'd also had camera attachments...

And film and cameras.

Not to be a thread killing fun sponge, but I think the real point about this isn't so much the issue of is this a crusade against Islam or is it old testament new testament, east coast vs west coast what seems particularly hypocritical about the whole thing is that no where does baby J advocate killing for any reason. In fact he seems to go to great lengths to dissuade people from doing so.

Bullitt · 01-21-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Why do you doubt that?

Honestly partly just on a hunch, MREs aren't a source of sensational news like guns are. It's like the perfect storm of hot-button issues in the media: guns, Iraq, and religion. Compare that to lets say a stash of dusty surplus MREs with verses printed on them sold at some Army-Navy surplus store in South Dakota. Which would grab the headlines more?

Griff · 01-21-2010, 09:09 PM

Government endorsement of religion on MRE wrappers would be an epic shit-storm.

monster · 01-21-2010, 09:25 PM

Hey, if we're going to take issue about this sort of shit, let's start with something that affects everybody and get god off the money. :p

ooh, just had an idea, I think I might get one of those credit cards you design yourself and put "In

we trust" on it!

01-21-2010, 07:20 PM	#63
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Gee I didn't know sights were considered weapons now. The notion that there are "weapons with bible verses on them" is false. The sight is a piece of equipment, akin to a pair of binoculars, flashlight, backpack, tent, MRE, etc. etc. If these were stamped on the weapon itself, then I could potentially see a problem since the weapon itself is the means to which the military projects force. Not a harmless attachment. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

01-21-2010, 07:26 PM	#65
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	yeah, but they could be used for checking out the showers of the opposite sex. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-21-2010, 07:29 PM	#67
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Yes the company puts these on many of their products, and has been doing so long before the military ever started buying them. I just have a hard time seeing how this is any different then lets say if all the MRE packages had verses printed on them. Neither are weapons, however both are used by the military to enhance their ability to wage war. But I highly doubt the same stink would be raised if it was MREs instead of rifle sights. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

01-21-2010, 08:34 PM	#71
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	A soldier's objective is to eliminate the enemy. I never looked AT my scope.... I looked THROUGH it. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

01-21-2010, 09:09 PM	#74
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Government endorsement of religion on MRE wrappers would be an epic shit-storm. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-21-2010, 07:11 PM	#62
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	Its not a major issue to me and I really dont care if our soldiers have to use weapons with bible verses on them or not, but it leaves me feeling uneasy, because it does imply to me (an atheist) that the killing done with these weapons is religiously sanctioned, and I just never thought we still did that. But I guess we do.

01-21-2010, 07:21 PM	#64
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	FFS...they are *rifle* sights. Honestly. But OK, I get it that it wasnt intentional. That this company does it on all its stuff (right?). Its just an unfortunate turn of events that put these particular sights on US military rifles. Its still eerie from my perspective.

01-21-2010, 09:25 PM	#75
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Hey, if we're going to take issue about this sort of shit, let's start with something that affects everybody and get god off the money. :p ooh, just had an idea, I think I might get one of those credit cards you design yourself and put "In we trust" on it! __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

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