WWJK: Who would Jesus Kill - Military supplier adds bible references to rifle sights - Page 6

monster · 01-22-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

More than one. Heck, you can use the whole Song of Solomon as a stroke book. Really.

Now likening somebody's tummy to a heap of wheat, okay, that's a little out there in simile land for me... but no one could say the Song of Solomon was the writing of a eunuch. It was written by somebody who could spooge.

Didn't i already say that?

BigV · 01-24-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

yeah, but they could be used for checking out the showers of the opposite sex.

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Hee Hee...is there an appropriate bible verse for that?

Yes. Verse 2.

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Originally Posted by The same source Trijicon uses

David and Bathsheba
1 In the spring of the year, the time when kings go out to battle, David sent Joab, and his servants with him, and all Israel. And they ravaged the Ammonites and besieged Rabbah. But David remained at Jerusalem.

2 It happened, late one afternoon, when David arose from his couch and was walking on the roof of the king’s house, that he saw from the roof a woman bathing; and the woman was very beautiful. 3 And David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, "Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?"

xoxoxoBruce · 01-24-2010, 07:34 PM

Scoping her out, was he?

capnhowdy · 01-21-2010, 07:34 PM

A soldier's objective is to eliminate the enemy. I never looked AT my scope.... I looked THROUGH it.

monster · 01-21-2010, 08:25 PM

Hey, if we're going to take issue about this sort of shit, let's start with something that affects everybody and get god off the money. :p

ooh, just had an idea, I think I might get one of those credit cards you design yourself and put "In

we trust" on it!

lookout123 · 01-22-2010, 09:03 AM

I'm personally offended that that every single bottle of tobasco used in chow halls and MRE's for the past 20 years has been marked Kosher. I'm not jewish and I find it offensive.

Spexxvet · 01-22-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

I'm personally offended that that every single bottle of tobasco used in chow halls and MRE's for the past 20 years has been marked Kosher. I'm not jewish and I find it offensive.

Fuckin' crybaby

TheMercenary · 01-22-2010, 09:06 AM

This whole story is stupid and has very little traction among the troops. They could give a shit. Is it sighted properly and will I hit my target is a much more important question. There is no story here.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-22-2010, 12:24 PM

Really, Pico?

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It just sounds so wrong to put a bible verse on a killing machine. This is what really pisses me off about some Christians....everything is justified conveniently away.

"He teacheth my hands to war... I have pursued mine enemies and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed." Psalms 18:34, 37 -- that end of that lengthy, variegated Psalm is not all sweetness and light, is it?

"To everything there is a season... A time to kill and a time to heal...A time to love and a time to hate; a time of war and a time of peace..." Ecclesiastes 3 is a mighty fine chapter about perspective, and having it.

I'm not saying these could not be found distasteful; I reckon the writers found it distasteful in their far time too. You can find as many horrors as beauties written in the Bible -- and what is this but a reflection of life itself? The Bible has some rich veins of philosophy, right there for the mining.

I think you could stand to have a more mature understanding of that which is in the Bible. Its tales run from the mystical to the ethereal to earthy to bloody to legalistic to historic to, well, science fiction from Patmos -- all over the place. If someone decorates the tools of blood with a bloody sort of inscription drawn therefrom, is there cause for complaint? I don't think so.

"Justified conveniently"? A common -- too common -- complaint among those with but secondhand knowledge of Christianity -- but not one in the end much borne out. It's more the Bible observing that bad things happen, and sometimes to good people too. It may go on to chronicle what somebody did about them.

Are you going to complain about the Bible being a tool of oppression? Fah. It's quite like a gun: the very properties that make it useful as an oppressor's tool are the properties you can use as a tool to break that oppression and the oppressor with it -- "...as on the day of Midian."

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-22-2010, 12:25 PM

It's vegetables: it's parve. :p

glatt · 01-22-2010, 12:29 PM

UG, if you used the quote function, we might have a better chance of following you.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-22-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

UG, if you used the quote function, we might have a better chance of following you.

True, Glatt... didn't think how long this thread was -- think I can still edit something in. And Tabasco cain't be nuthin' but parve.

Aaand fixed up. Pico's post was bottom of first page.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-22-2010, 02:00 PM

First, this is about image and not a "who cares" issue. Ever since the United States began its "war on terror", it has at least attempted to make sure it was not taken as a "war against Islam". They do this because it will much easier for terrorist groups to recruit new members if they can convince people that the US is attempting to wipe out their [Muslims] life and religion, and not just fighting terrorists.

Yes, it is true that these verses really have no effect on US soldiers. Yes, it is true that this company has been putting these on before the "war on terror". Yes, bible versus probably can be found other places in the US Army. But, terrorist recruiters will NEVER bring that up when showing this to others and terrorist recruits will never consider those legitimate arguments either. So, if it is such a non-issue, then why the hell would you keep them on when they can be used as effective propaganda to recruit terrorists against the US?

SamIam · 01-22-2010, 02:27 PM

What if they were verses from the Koran? Would everybody be all happy and skippy then?

classicman · 01-22-2010, 02:11 PM

Trijicon has been putting these on their products for many many years. Who are we to tell them what they can and cannot do? The only right thing for the Gov't to do so that we don't offend anyone, including those we are killing, is to cancel the contract with Trijicon and buy sights from an Asian company. They'll probably be cheaper anyway.

(Dripping with Sarcasm)

01-24-2010, 07:34 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Scoping her out, was he? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-21-2010, 07:34 PM	#4
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	A soldier's objective is to eliminate the enemy. I never looked AT my scope.... I looked THROUGH it. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

01-21-2010, 08:25 PM	#5
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Hey, if we're going to take issue about this sort of shit, let's start with something that affects everybody and get god off the money. :p ooh, just had an idea, I think I might get one of those credit cards you design yourself and put "In we trust" on it! __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

01-22-2010, 09:03 AM	#6
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	I'm personally offended that that every single bottle of tobasco used in chow halls and MRE's for the past 20 years has been marked Kosher. I'm not jewish and I find it offensive. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

01-22-2010, 09:06 AM	#8
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	This whole story is stupid and has very little traction among the troops. They could give a shit. Is it sighted properly and will I hit my target is a much more important question. There is no story here. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

01-22-2010, 12:25 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	It's vegetables: it's parve. :p __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

01-22-2010, 12:29 PM	#11
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	UG, if you used the quote function, we might have a better chance of following you.

01-22-2010, 02:00 PM	#13
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	First, this is about image and not a "who cares" issue. Ever since the United States began its "war on terror", it has at least attempted to make sure it was not taken as a "war against Islam". They do this because it will much easier for terrorist groups to recruit new members if they can convince people that the US is attempting to wipe out their [Muslims] life and religion, and not just fighting terrorists. Yes, it is true that these verses really have no effect on US soldiers. Yes, it is true that this company has been putting these on before the "war on terror". Yes, bible versus probably can be found other places in the US Army. But, terrorist recruiters will NEVER bring that up when showing this to others and terrorist recruits will never consider those legitimate arguments either. So, if it is such a non-issue, then why the hell would you keep them on when they can be used as effective propaganda to recruit terrorists against the US? __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

01-22-2010, 02:27 PM	#14
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	What if they were verses from the Koran? Would everybody be all happy and skippy then?

01-22-2010, 02:11 PM	#15
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Trijicon has been putting these on their products for many many years. Who are we to tell them what they can and cannot do? The only right thing for the Gov't to do so that we don't offend anyone, including those we are killing, is to cancel the contract with Trijicon and buy sights from an Asian company. They'll probably be cheaper anyway. (Dripping with Sarcasm) __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt Last edited by classicman; 01-22-2010 at 03:36 PM.

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