Earthquake

Spexxvet · 01-19-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Spexxie - you stated your incorrect opinion without any supporting facts or figures. Others proved it wrong with supporting evidence because you were too lazy to do it yourself. Now after you've been proven wrong REPEATEDLY, you call me a moron?

What was incorrect? I stated that we're giving all this charity to Haiti after the fact, when it would have been better to have contributed before, when it would have helped. Are you saying that this assertion is incorrect? I'm not saying we didn't give them foreign aid, I'm not saying that we should increase foreign aid - I'm saying that it would have been better if we had contributed to charities that help Haiti before the earthquake. Get it?

classicman · 01-19-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

What was incorrect? I stated that we're giving all this charity to Haiti after the fact, when it would have been better to have contributed before, when it would have helped.

We did.

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Are you saying that this assertion is incorrect? I'm not saying we didn't give them foreign aid, I'm not saying that we should increase foreign aid - I'm saying that it would have been better if we had contributed to charities that help Haiti before the earthquake. Get it?

You implied and argued that we didn't and you were wrong.
Then you called me a moron for proving you wrong.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-19-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

What was incorrect? I stated that we're giving all this charity to Haiti after the fact, when it would have been better to have contributed before, when it would have helped. Are you saying that this assertion is incorrect? I'm not saying we didn't give them foreign aid, I'm not saying that we should increase foreign aid - I'm saying that it would have been better if we had contributed to charities that help Haiti before the earthquake. Get it?

No amount of aid would have stopped the earthquake, and I doubt like hell they would have changed the way they built their buildings. Even in retrospect, your theory doesn't hold up.

piercehawkeye45 · 01-19-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I stated that we're giving all this charity to Haiti after the fact, when it would have been better to have contributed before, when it would have helped. Are you saying that this assertion is incorrect?

In order to have a drastic effect on the amount of deaths due to building infrastructure, the amount of money spent would be MUCH MUCH greater. Rebar is expensive and ineffective against 7.0 earthquakes and to make an effective structure against 7.0 earthquakes, the design is much much more expensive. This would also probably prove to be ineffective due to corruption and low code standards. And that is with the assumption that we only helped Haiti and not the numerous other 3rd world countries that have a probably of natural disasters

xoxoxoBruce · 01-19-2010, 11:25 AM

Even if we had given them tons of aid, I seriously doubt rebar would have been included, just for the reasons you stated.

SamIam · 01-19-2010, 11:30 AM

Spexx is going to hold on to his argument, no matter what we say. His heart is in the right place, he just hasn't thought the issue through.

SamIam · 01-19-2010, 11:43 AM

Probably one of the best things we could do for third world countries is to provide birth control for those women who want it. Under Bush, the US stopped funding many family planning programs because the religous right connected abortion with birth control. But the US has never funded abortions and they are illegal in many third world countries. Ever growing population densities mean the poor get poorer as there is less and less land and food per capita. Obama has begun to change US policies back to providing birth control methods for third world nations. Haiti is mostly Catholic, though, so I don't know if the availability of birth control would have helped them much or not.

jinx · 01-19-2010, 11:45 AM

What do you think all those tetanus vaccine campaigns are about?

SamIam · 01-19-2010, 11:53 AM

They would have been the perfect thing for Haiti. Unfortunately, that article is 15 years old and gives no author, so I am rather skeptical.

jinx · 01-19-2010, 12:11 PM

Ok. Here's 2 more on the topic.

Placental transfer of tetanus toxoid antibodies in Nigerian mothers.

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The geometric mean of the ratio of cord blood to maternal antibody levels for Nigerian pairs was lower than that of the UK pairs (0.776 vs. 1.306), suggesting a flaw in the transplacental transfer of antibodies. Possible mechanisms involved in blocking placental transfer of tetanus toxoid antibodies may be high maternal IgG levels and heavy malarial placental infection. This block of placental transfer of antibodies affects current immunization programs and necessitates further study.

Fertility regulating and immunotherapeutic
vaccines reaching human trials stage

01-19-2010, 11:25 AM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Even if we had given them tons of aid, I seriously doubt rebar would have been included, just for the reasons you stated. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-19-2010, 11:45 AM	#8
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	What do you think all those tetanus vaccine campaigns are about? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

01-19-2010, 11:30 AM	#6
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Spexx is going to hold on to his argument, no matter what we say. His heart is in the right place, he just hasn't thought the issue through.

01-19-2010, 11:43 AM	#7
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Probably one of the best things we could do for third world countries is to provide birth control for those women who want it. Under Bush, the US stopped funding many family planning programs because the religous right connected abortion with birth control. But the US has never funded abortions and they are illegal in many third world countries. Ever growing population densities mean the poor get poorer as there is less and less land and food per capita. Obama has begun to change US policies back to providing birth control methods for third world nations. Haiti is mostly Catholic, though, so I don't know if the availability of birth control would have helped them much or not.

01-19-2010, 11:53 AM	#9
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	They would have been the perfect thing for Haiti. Unfortunately, that article is 15 years old and gives no author, so I am rather skeptical.

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