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Old 01-18-2010, 07:32 AM   #106
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. . . and if I were a doctor or supply person et all, I'd want their protection too.
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:17 AM   #107
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...Why weren't we there helping them rebar? Because it is not our fucking job to go do everything for everybody. Why didn't we make sure they had survival supplies? It isn't our fucking job...
But it's no more "our fucking job" to dig them out, feed them, and give them medical care after an earthquake. Yet you say...

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I think doing what you can right now to help someone is a good thing...
It would have cost less in lives and money if we had been good neighbors proactively.
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:32 AM   #108
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As for the Marines arriving with weapons, well yea, they are Marines, that is what they do. I wouldn't want to be in that country without a weapon at this point and time if I were them.
I wouldn't have wanted to be there without a weapon, before the quake.

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It would have cost less in lives and money if we had been good neighbors proactively.
OK, Chavez. The UN had peace keeping people there, something like 5000 of them. What should we have done, invade the country?
Nobody in their right mind is going to invest in an unstable, lawless, country.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:18 PM   #109
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It would have cost less in lives and money if we had been good neighbors proactively.
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Wow its sooner than I expected, but apparently the US isn't doing enough or doing it right.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:27 PM   #110
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You're right: fewer people dies because we did nothing and their houses collapsed on them. Now give more to charity, Einstein.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:30 PM   #111
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... Nobody in their right mind is going to invest in an unstable, lawless, country.
We're investing through charities now, though. Hmmm.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:42 PM   #112
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You're right: fewer people dies because we did nothing and their houses collapsed on them. Now give more to charity, Einstein.
We gave them nothing? Are you really sure about that?

As recently as 2006 we gave them 163 million according to one site and another has it listed as 55 as recently as 2008.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:18 PM   #113
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We gave them nothing? Are you really sure about that?

As recently as 2006 we gave them 163 million according to one site and another has it listed as 55 as recently as 2008.
Nothing in terms of the charity that has been pouring in for the last week.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #114
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that wasn'ty your point - You said

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It would have cost less in lives and money if we had been good neighbors proactively.
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we did nothing and their houses collapsed on them. Now give more to charity, Einstein.
The US was proactive. We gave them well over $250,000,000 over the last few years. You are wrong.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:46 PM   #115
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It would be wonderful if we could help the entire third world - and I'm sure there are policy changes, etc that we could implement to make the aid we do give more effective. But even the US doesn't have the kind of money to give such substantial amounts of assistance to Rwanda, Ethiopia, Brazil, on and on. Sure, if we had a magic ball we could have put money in Haiti ahead of time, the same as we could have warned people about the tsunami's and sent aid to Indonesia, India, etc, ahead of time. Unfortunately, time travel has yet to be invented (no doubt the pentagon is holding out on us).
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:11 PM   #116
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The US was proactive. We gave them well over $250,000,000 over the last few years. You are wrong.
OK Classic, you win. We did not give them nothing. I exagerated. We did not help our neighbors so much that their buildings collapsed on them because of all the rebar they couldn't afford.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:13 PM   #117
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It would be wonderful if we could help the entire third world - and I'm sure there are policy changes, etc that we could implement to make the aid we do give more effective. But even the US doesn't have the kind of money to give such substantial amounts of assistance to Rwanda, Ethiopia, Brazil, on and on. Sure, if we had a magic ball we could have put money in Haiti ahead of time, the same as we could have warned people about the tsunami's and sent aid to Indonesia, India, etc, ahead of time. Unfortunately, time travel has yet to be invented (no doubt the pentagon is holding out on us).
It's a shame. We're very good at being reactive, not very good at being proactive.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:28 PM   #118
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what's this 'we' shit, white man?
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:39 PM   #119
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what's this 'we' shit, white man?
Not you. It's the people who are giving to charities since the earthquake.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:44 PM   #120
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