Here's how it is, and this goes back to Socrates

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-10-2010, 10:27 PM

Such as grammar, for instance... sigh... the objective case of I is me. This happens whether the pronoun is the object of a verb or of a preposition, in this case between.

Declining pronouns is a characteristic of Germanic-group languages, of which English is one in spite of its extensive Latinate vocabulary. (It's all in what we do around verbs. They are less likely to get pushed around than nouns.)

People are not being trained to any standard in English any more. My generation mostly knows better than that. [/grousing]

xoxoxoBruce · 01-10-2010, 10:39 PM

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Undertoad · 01-11-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

People are not being trained to any standard in English any more. My generation mostly knows better than that. [/grousing]

How right you are. How much you know.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-21-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

How right you are. How much you know.

You can both spell, and construct a grammatical, trenchant sentence.

There will always be that irreducible core of bright folks who simply can't string a written declarative sentence together. You might consider Charles Lyell, and what Stephen Jay Gould wrote about trying to wade through his lengthy, paragraphic sentences.

But then there are the ones resistant to both training and logic. Their output is wretchedly suggestive of a head constructed of carven pine throughout.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-21-2010, 03:07 AM

Cicero · 01-11-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Such as grammar, for instance... sigh... the objective case of I is me. This happens whether the pronoun is the object of a verb or of a preposition, in this case between.

Declining pronouns is a characteristic of Germanic-group languages, of which English is one in spite of its extensive Latinate vocabulary. (It's all in what we do around verbs. They are less likely to get pushed around than nouns.)

People are not being trained to any standard in English any more. My generation mostly knows better than that. [/grousing]

I bow to your intellectual superiority.

Urbane Guerrilla · 01-21-2010, 03:08 AM

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I bow to your intellectual superiority.

Dude -- sit up straight and sin no more. It's not hard.

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