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Old 11-14-2009, 06:51 AM   #1
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While in the minority, one criticism made of the Democrats was their lack of cohesion. The current Republican minority, while cohesive in opposition to issues like health care, in other areas is almost schizophrenic.

The divisions among Democratic moderates and the extreme left wing are almost insignificant compared to the division between Republican moderates and the extreme right wing. This has been aggravated by the defection of a very large group of moderates, giving the impression that the only reliable voting bloc left in the Republican party is it's right wing.
And when the dems were out of the White House that was the point. They were in the same level of turmoil and appeared to have no one in charge, no one to drive their ship. They looked like the protesters at the G-8. Everyone was there to protest, none of them for the same thing. When the party in power runs things, historically the party out of power looks disjointed and schizoprenic.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:07 AM   #2
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And when the dems were out of the White House that was the point. They were in the same level of turmoil and appeared to have no one in charge, no one to drive their ship.
On the Merc truth scale....you failed!

The Democrats won 14 Senate seats and 56 House seats in 06 and 08 by seeking out and running moderate candidates not the most liberal candidates, for the most part. It was the national strategy guided by the DNC Chairman, Howard Dean.
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As chairman of the party, Dean created and employed the "50 State Strategy" that attempted to make Democrats competitive in normally conservative states often dismissed in the past as "solid red." The success of the strategy became apparent after the 2006 midterm elections, where Democrats took back the House and picked up seats in the Senate from normally Republican states such as Missouri and Montana. In the 2008 election, Barack Obama used "The 50 state strategy" as the backbone of his candidacy.

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The Republican approach is to stick with a conservative ideological litmus test for candidates. Some of the leaders within the party know that this is a failed strategy, but are unable to convince the hard core social conservative base that now controls the party.

I would ask again...who is running the Republican party (or the Tea Parties)? Leaders who understand how to win elections or the extreme ideologues with a litmus test?

One party has become the big tent party. Objective political observers know which party that would be.
A Republican party with open arms that wants to be more inclusive and more appealing to moderates?....it ain't happening, dude.

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Old 11-16-2009, 11:00 AM   #3
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bla, bla, bla...
Well another report disagrees with your partisan assessment again.

Republicans, riven but resurgent
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From The Economist print edition

Why conservative in-fighting may matter less than you might think
http://www.economist.com/world/unite...ry_id=14794768
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:20 AM   #4
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Well another report disagrees with your partisan assessment again.

Republicans, riven but resurgent


http://www.economist.com/world/unite...ry_id=14794768
Reasonable people can have different opinions on this issue.

What I took dispute with was your assessment of my opinion as "FAILED" when it is shared by many non-partisans (as well as some Republican leaders) and is simply one perspective.

In fact, on numerous opinion posts, you grade those posts with which you disagree as "FAILED"...a narrow-minded unwillngess to accept that other opinions, as opposed to facts, are valid as well.

You want to play that game....I'll get in the gutter with you and play as well.

What is most laughable is someone who describes the Speaker of the House as a Nazi and who does not know the difference between liberalism and socialism...grading others at all.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:08 PM   #5
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Reasonable people can have different opinions on this issue.

What I took dispute with was your assessment of my opinion as "FAILED" when it is shared by many non-partisans (as well as some Republican leaders) and is simply one perspective.

In fact, on numerous opinion posts, you grade those posts with which you disagree as "FAILED"...a narrow-minded unwillngess to accept that other opinions, as opposed to facts, are valid as well.
Only because you grade your self as correct do you fail. And you fail here too.

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What is most laughable is someone who describes the Speaker of the House as a Nazi
She is a Nazi. Does it offend you for me to call her that?

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and who does not know the difference between liberalism and socialism...grading others at all.
I know the difference and I know that the Demoncrats in Congress try to blur the lines and have done a pretty good job of it in the past 10 months.
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