The Return of the Inflation Tax

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I seen none of your "signs of ignorance and bigotry and calling for the spilling of blood to rid the nation of those nazis, socialists, and other anti-democratic demons", that is right out of the Pelosi talking points and it is fear mongering against anyone who dare disagree with the demoncratic congressional majority.

I agree completely that the Tea Baggers have legitimate concerns, although I dont share those concerns.

But the reason they are not a legitimate political force is that those concerns are being drowned out by the extremists among them that will detract from more reasonable independents taking up their cause at the ballot box.

Start with the perceived leadership -- Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. and the lies and the myths they perpetuate, from the "death panels" to the "Obama is not a citizen" rhetoric...all of it contribute to the ignorant signs and shouts which drive others away.

Are these really the voices you want leading the revolution?

Or perhaps you want someone like Ron Paul leading the revolution....a guy who spurred the most recent grass roots movement in 08, but could barely get 5% of the vote in Republican primaries. Run as a third party? Works for me, it will simply divide the center-right and far right even more.

And then look in the mirror and you will see how the Cellar is a microcosm of much of what detracts from the movement....with similar ignorant posts from you and UG ( Nazi cunt, childish graphics, charges of socialism behind every Democratic program, personal attacks on the character of those with whom you disagree).

Do you really think that helps attract supporters to your cause?

Let me see, Redux a nameless faceless Demoncratic Shrill vs a noted well published Economist? Hmmmm.... I think I'll stick with the scholar.

It is not about me. Your scholar is on the fringe.

In most western European countries and the United States, advocates of progressive taxation tend to be found among the majority of economists and social scientists, many of whom believe that completely proportional taxation is not a possibility. In the U.S., an overwhelming majority (81%) of economists support progressive taxation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_tax

The libertarian policies and positions espoused by you and Ludwig Von Mises Institute have never achieved any meaningful level of popular support anytime in history and anywhere in the western world....because they represent a fringe ideology and the vast majority of the economic and public policy scholars, and more importantly, the citizenry, recognize that such policies are not in the "peoples" best interest.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I agree completely that the Tea Baggers have legitimate concerns, although I dont share those concerns.

They just disagree with Demoncrats and happen to be a larger force than your guys will recognize. The elections will speak to whether that truth bears out.

But the reason they are not a legitimate political force is that those concerns are being drowned out by the extremists among them that will detract from more reasonable independents taking up their cause at the ballot box.

Extremists like Pelosi and Reid represent the otherside of the same coin.

Start with the perceived leadership -- Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. and the lies and the myths they perpetuate, from the "death panels" to the "Obama is not a citizen" rhetoric...all of it contribute to the ignorant signs and shouts which drive others away.

Your first and most common error is that you describe those individuals as "perceived leadership". Those are lables of the liberal media elite whom don't like their views and would like to take away their rights to point out views which are contrary to the mainstream Demoncratic leadership. I don't support much of what they say but there is truth in all propaganda including yours.

Are these really the voices you want leading the revolution?

They don't.

And then look in the mirror and you will see how the Cellar is a microcosm of much of what detracts from the movement....with similar ignorant posts from you and UG ( Nazi cunt, childish graphics, charges of socialism behind every Democratic program, personal attacks on the character of those with whom you disagree).

Look in the mirror yourself. Pot meet kettle. And if you look at my comments I never called her a Nazi Cunt. Those things were in separate sentances. You gave her that lable but I really can't disagree.

Do you really think that helps attract supporters to your cause?

I am not interested in "attracting supporters". This is not a recruiting forum. I am expressing my veiws and ideas I have generally supported. Well unless I have been pointed out a better alternative, so far you haven't put much up to change that in your White House talking points.

It is not about me. Your scholar is on the fringe.

So far nothing you have provided us proves anything different.

The libertarian policies and positions espoused by you and Ludwig Von Mises Institute have never achieved any meaningful level of popular support anytime in history and anywhere in the western world....because they represent a fringe ideology and the vast majority of the economic and public policy scholars, and more importantly, the citizenry, recognize that such policies are not in the "peoples" best interest.

Your opinion. Plenty of people are beginning to explore alternative to the dominance of tax and spend Demoncrats and do nothing Republickins.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

... if you look at my comments I never called her a Nazi Cunt. Those things were in separate sentences.

Right...that makes it more acceptable and less ignorant.

The fact that you still see nothing wrong with those kinds of slurs and that you alone feel the need to spew in order to make your point says it all.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Right...that makes it more acceptable and less ignorant.

The fact that you still see nothing wrong with those kinds of slurs that you only feel necessary to spew in order to make your point says it all.

I only made a point of your championing of her. I think it is a very commonly held opinion. She views anyone who is against her views as Nazi's. I guess you don't like it when someone turns the tables on her.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I only made a point of your championing of her. I think it is a very commonly held opinion. She views anyone who is against her views as Nazi's. I guess you don't like it when someone turns the tables on her.

I condemned her in a post at the time for her comment because it was too sweeping...even though it was directed at those screaming hecklers carrying Nazi signs (like the one you condemned) at town hall meetings. As I posted at the time, she should have been much more direct in focusing her remarks directly at the relatively few ignorant attendees. Her remarks were, or course, taken by the right to apply to anyone who spoke out against the health care reform bills.

she referred to hecklers at a town hall meeting: “They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare.”

IMO, those signs should have been condemned by any reasonable speaker of either political party at any of those town hall meetings or tea parties.

But I get it....its my fault that you felt compelled to repeatedly call her a Nazi and a cunt.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I condemned her in a post at the time for her comment because it was too sweeping...even though it was directed at those screaming hecklers carrying Nazi signs (like the one you condemned) at town hall meetings. As I posted at the time, she should have been much more direct in focusing her remarks directly at the relatively few ignorant attendees. Her remarks were, or course, taken by the right to apply to anyone who spoke out against the health care reform bills.

she referred to hecklers at a town hall meeting: “They’re carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare.”

IMO, those signs should have been condemned by any reasonable speaker of either political party at any of those town hall meetings or tea parties.

But I get it....its my fault that you felt compelled to repeatedly call her a Nazi and a cunt.

My heart bleeds for her. Not.