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Old 10-30-2009, 08:46 AM   #1
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"Pelosi and her liberal allies want us to know as little about this legislation as possible, because it cannot stand up to public scrutiny. Why else would Pelosi forbid the public from attending the event?" the National Republican Congressional Committee said in its plea for contributions.
I call Bullshit. This information on this legislation is every-fuckin-where. They are more than happy to tell everyone what is in it.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:28 PM   #2
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I call Bullshit. This information on this legislation is every-fuckin-where. They are more than happy to tell everyone what is in it.
Sure they are. It has never been about what they are telling us. It is what we are not being told.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:20 PM   #3
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Sure they are. It has never been about what they are telling us. It is what we are not being told.
I thought it was about not being transparent or not making the bill available for all to read prior to the floor debate and vote.....Ahhhh....different bitching and moaning.

Anyone can read the full bill, a two-page summary, a ten-page summary, 20 different fact sheets on the components of the bill and more.

http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/1...lth-care.shtml

But it won't tell some what they want to here....for that, there are the ideological ops ed from the other side. The ones that describe it as socialism, government take over of health care, screwing grandma.

Or as the Republican leader in the Senate said today, "...the public option may cost you your life."

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Old 10-30-2009, 05:57 PM   #4
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I thought it was about not being transparent or not making the bill available for all to read prior to the floor debate and vote.....Ahhhh....different bitching and moaning.
Correct the bill was completely formed behind closed doors with no bi-partisan input. The ideas formed by committtee with no in put from anyone other than Demoncrats.

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Anyone can read the full bill, a two-page summary, a ten-page summary, 20 different fact sheets on the components of the bill and more.
Of course you can read the Demoncratic Healthcare Bill. Rahm it down the throats of the people. Fact sheets out by the White House and the Dems. Partisan.

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But it won't tell some what they want to here....for that, there are the ideological ops ed from the other side. The ones that describe it as socialism, government take over of health care, screwing grandma.
The facts are painful.

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Or as the Republican leader in the Senate said today, [i]"...the public option may cost you your life."
I could only hope.
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM   #5
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Correct the bill was completely formed behind closed doors with no bi-partisan input. The ideas formed by committtee with no in put from anyone other than Demoncrats.
In fact, the underlying bill (the one adopted in July) that the final bill mirrors in most respects, accepted 14-15 Republican amendments and rejected 25-30 amendments.

That's called majority rules.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:01 PM   #6
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Fact sheets out by the White House and the Dems. Partisan.

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But it won't tell some what they want to here....for that, there are the ideological ops ed from the other side. The ones that describe it as socialism, government take over of health care, screwing grandma....
The facts are painful.
I get it now.

Facts sheets from the White House and Democrats are partisan opinions......and partisan opinions from those opposed to the bill are facts.



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Or as the Republican leader in the Senate said today, "...the public option may cost you your life."
I could only hope.
You hope this bill may cost people their lives?

How sad or mean-spirited is that.

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