Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[TheMercenary]

CBO Puts House Health Bill Total Cost At $1.055 Trillion

Nice....

The costs of the bill are fully offset by cuts to existing spending programs-- including the Medicare Advantage and other programs--saving $426 billion through 2019, and by tax increases raising $572 billion over that time

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...-1055-trillion

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

CBO Puts House Health Bill Total Cost At $1.055 Trillion

Nice....

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...-1055-trillion

Yep...very nice!

The bulk of that $572 billion in tax increases are surtaxes on income over $500K (single) and $1 million (couple).

The bulk of the savings are from cutting payments to insurance companies providing enhanced services to those seniors who can afford to pay more through Medicare Advantage and rolling those services back to basic Medicare for all seniors.....minimizing the current two-tier Medicare system.

I like it!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Yep...very nice!

The bulk of the savings are from cutting payments to insurance companies providing enhanced services to those seniors who can afford to pay more through Medicare Advantage and rolling those services back to basic Medicare for all seniors.....minimizing the current two-tier Medicare system.

I like it!

Fail. Why do you want to take away insurace from seniors? Who says you know what they can or cannot afford as a block group? Why should older people pay for the younger people who are healthy by cutting their insurance? In his Joint Session speech President Obama promised that no one on Medicare would be forced to lose the coverage they have now. So he basically lied to the seniors. How do you save money on Medicare when the government has been unable to control waste, fraud, and abuse since the inception of Medicare? More smoke and Mirrors by the Demoncrats....

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Fail. Why do you want to take away insurace from seniors? Who says you know what they can or cannot afford as a block group? Why should older people pay for the younger people who are healthy by cutting their insurance? In his Joint Session speech President Obama promised that no one on Medicare would be forced to lose the coverage they have now. So he basically lied to the seniors. How do you save money on Medicare when the government has been unable to control waste, fraud, and abuse since the inception of Medicare? More smoke and Mirrors by the Demoncrats....

I see a trend here.

Obama is a liar and/or a bulshitter on nearly every issue.

And those who disagree with you are failures and narcissists.

Now its your turn to flood the discussion with 10 or so more cuts/pastes.

And, I'll chime in again after that.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I see a trend here.

Obama is a liar and/or a bulshitter on nearly every issue.

I wouldn't go that far, he is no different than anyother scumbag in D.C. He lied to get votes and now he can't pull it off without being caught.

And those who disagree with you are failures and narcissists.

Anyone who gets all upset because people don't believe what they believe is truely narcissistic, eh don't care that much if you believe what I believe.

Now its your turn to flood the discussion with 10 or so more cuts/pastes.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your support for the Demoncratic propaganda. You are really no different. As soon as someone challenges your ideas you yell "racist" in an attempt to stop the discussion. Certainly you should be able to defend my questions to you and those points raised in the opinion that I posted?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

....As soon as someone challenges your ideas you yell "racist" in an attempt to stop the discussion...

Now that ignorant comment does piss me off.

I defy you to link ANY post of mine when I yelled "racist"

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Now that ignorant comment does piss me off.

I defy you to link ANY post of mine when I yelled "racist"

I should have rephrased it. You are like the guy who does that to stiffle the conversation when they are losing. It is your Modus operandi.