Apostrophe Abuse/neglect - Page 2

ZenGum · 10-28-2009, 09:44 PM

The teachers confirm, no apostrophe is needed. Also, the M in mural should be lower case because it is in the middle of a hyphenated word, not at the beginning of a word.

Also my pronounciation of "adjective" is a bit odd, apparently.

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Originally Posted by monster

2) Where is that poster people always link to here about how to use an apostrophe, stupid.

Moi? I'm in Adelaide.

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my kids picked B too (except Thor -he's asleep)

...and so picked ZZzzzzzzz.

monster · 10-28-2009, 09:47 PM

or should we be saying Academics in the first place?

or should we change Sports to Sporting.......

Perhaps I need to say Sport not Sports like Americans say Math not Maths?

pehaps it needs to be IM Sport Teams?

monster · 10-28-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

The teachers confirm, no apostrophe is needed. Also, the M in mural should be lower case because it is in the middle of a hyphenated word, not at the beginning of a word..

yeah, it should be -but that's definitely a "When In Rome" thing

Cloud · 10-28-2009, 09:54 PM

no, I think "sports teams" is either a compond noun or a noun phrase. The proper possessive would be sports teams' something. My Chicago Manual of style says this:

"in compound nouns and noun phrases the final element usually takes the possessive form. [such as:]

student assistants' time cards." Except there's no possessive here, right?

for an opposite reaction (thereby making me wrong) it says:
"the line between a possessive or genitive form and a noun used attributively--as an adjective--is sometimes fuzzy, especially in the plural. . . . Chicago dispenses with the apostrophe only in proper nounts or where there is clearly no possesive meaning:

the women's team (clearly possessive)
a consumer's group

It's a pretty hard grammatical problem, but I really don't think there's any possessive there, so I still think no apostrophe

xoxoxoBruce · 10-29-2009, 02:10 AM

The teams are not a possession of sports.

ZenGum · 10-29-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

yeah, it should be -but that's definitely a "When In Rome" thing

When in Rome, teach the ignorant yokels to speak English properly.

Spexxvet · 10-29-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

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a) Intra-Mural Sports' Teams
b) Intra-Mural Sports Teams
c) Intra-Mural Sport's Teams

It's a title referring to several school teams who play a sport against teams from other schools. The teams are the people doing the fundraising the poster is about, ...

They are teams fundraising for sports. No possessive.

BTW, if they are playing against other schools, they are interscholastic, not intramural.

monster · 10-29-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

BTW, if they are playing against other schools, they are interscholastic, not intramural.

Oh just don't get me started. I really do try not to cause trouble because I manage enough without trying....

Reg · 10-29-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

When in Rome, teach the ignorant yokels to speak English properly.

Speak loudly and slowly while pointing

lumberjim · 10-29-2009, 11:50 AM

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4. Skitt’s Law
Expressed as "any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself" or "the likelihood of an error in a post is directly proportional to the embarrassment it will cause the poster."

TheMercenary · 10-29-2009, 11:57 AM

I say b) with a variation:

b) Intra-Mural Sport Teams

Cloud · 10-29-2009, 12:18 PM

dubiously: who says "sport teams"? Maybe if you are only talking about a single sport, but it would then be more common to say baseball teams, or soccer teams.

Clodfobble · 10-29-2009, 12:31 PM

Teams is a dumb word.

Make it Intramural Athletics.

jinx · 10-29-2009, 12:39 PM

How about:

School Bake Sale

Flint · 10-29-2009, 12:48 PM

I'm sure the teacher intended "Intra-Mural Sports' Teams" to mean "the teams of (or belonging to) the intra-mural sports entity."

That only makes sense if there is an "entity" to which the teams belong.

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10-28-2009, 09:54 PM	#19
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	no, I think "sports teams" is either a compond noun or a noun phrase. The proper possessive would be sports teams' something. My Chicago Manual of style says this: "in compound nouns and noun phrases the final element usually takes the possessive form. [such as:] student assistants' time cards." Except there's no possessive here, right? for an opposite reaction (thereby making me wrong) it says: "the line between a possessive or genitive form and a noun used attributively--as an adjective--is sometimes fuzzy, especially in the plural. . . . Chicago dispenses with the apostrophe only in proper nounts or where there is clearly no possesive meaning: the women's team (clearly possessive) a consumer's group It's a pretty hard grammatical problem, but I really don't think there's any possessive there, so I still think no apostrophe __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I say b) with a variation: b) Intra-Mural Sport Teams __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

10-29-2009, 12:18 PM	#27
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	dubiously: who says "sport teams"? Maybe if you are only talking about a single sport, but it would then be more common to say baseball teams, or soccer teams. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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10-29-2009, 12:39 PM	#29
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	How about: School Bake Sale __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

10-29-2009, 12:48 PM	#30
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I'm sure the teacher intended "Intra-Mural Sports' Teams" to mean "the teams of (or belonging to) the intra-mural sports entity." That only makes sense if there is an "entity" to which the teams belong. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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