Peace

[henry quirk]

The cat was hungry, you are its source of food, you overslept (I presume past its normal feeding time), it wanted food, it went to the source.

Don't underestimate the complexity of the animal or downplay the intricacies of instinct. I don't. I also don't mistake instinct and training for 'self', or person-hood.

Your animal can learn, can adapt, is relatively intelligent, but it doesn't self-reflect, has no consciousness of self, isn't an 'I'.

Your cat didn't say to itself, 'gee, I'm hungry...Sky is dragging ass this morning...I best go and rouse her'.

Instead: the animal is hungry...habit and routine say food should be in place...it's not...you are the source of food...cat goes to the source of food...cat taps you on the face, not to rouse you, but to get food.

Seems to me a perfectly reasonable chain of events having nothing to with understanding, or 'I'ness.

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Your cat didn't say to itself, 'gee, I'm hungry...Sky is dragging ass this morning...I best go and rouse her'.

hehehe

See you can do animal talk.

He has such a Garfield face so I got a chuckle out of your animal ad lib.

Even while negating the likelihood there is that part of you that went so far as to imagine what the cat might say and that image is the one I like best.

Plus it makes life more fun.

[henry quirk]

and: that's fine, Sky.

I have no problem with agreeing to disagree...

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

and: that's fine, Sky.

I have no problem with agreeing to disagree...

I am not exactly disagreeing either. It's not about proving or disproving. I'm just picking and choosing. I choose to see this in a subjective rather than a critical or objective way. I know there must be a smidgen of truth in what you say. Much of science agrees with you.

Perhaps only critical and objective statements are best for a philosophy thread and I am way off the mark but there doesn't seem to be much critical analysis happening here anyway so I thought to have fun with it.