Science is Broken

DanaC · 09-19-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sean

On Intelligent Design, I also think there's a degree of fundamentalism in the atheist camp. I think Richard Dawkins might be an example. However, I understand the frustration of biologists when confronted with the duplicitous and obfuscatory tactics of Creationists.

Pah! I love Dawkins. I find him fascinating and compelling.

@ V: that's damn funny.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-19-2009, 11:40 AM

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Elspode · 09-19-2009, 03:09 PM

There's too much of politics and profit involved for pure science to exist anymore. Politics, be it relgious politics, social politics, or even scientific politics, starts with the desired end, then tries to cobble up "evidence" to bear out the goal of the vested interests. This is *not* the same as having a hypothesis, and then testing it dispassionately. There's damn little recognition anymore of the fact that, when you do pure science, you eventually come up with something that can be commoditized, socialized or theocratized anyway.

It's all backwards. Everything is backwards these days.

sean · 09-19-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Pah! I love Dawkins. I find him fascinating and compelling.

Don't get me wrong. He's a genius.

And yeah, so is Trudeau!

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Originally Posted by Elspode

There's too much of politics and profit involved for pure science to exist anymore. ...

I can understand anybody feeling that way, but I think it's a little pessimistic. I know a lot of scientists, and despite their constant struggle for funds, most manage to do real science and remain driven by curiosity rather than agenda.

TheMercenary · 09-20-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Pah! I love Dawkins. I find him fascinating and compelling.

Dawkins rocks. He has some of the best interviews I have seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vHZvjxdIx0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E25j...layer_embedded

http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/

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Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	There's too much of politics and profit involved for pure science to exist anymore. Politics, be it relgious politics, social politics, or even scientific politics, starts with the desired end, then tries to cobble up "evidence" to bear out the goal of the vested interests. This is not the same as having a hypothesis, and then testing it dispassionately. There's damn little recognition anymore of the fact that, when you do pure science, you eventually come up with something that can be commoditized, socialized or theocratized anyway. It's all backwards. Everything is backwards these days. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

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