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Old 09-18-2009, 06:26 PM   #1
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Cool....then lets focus on your (?) contention that the government cant do anything right...particularly in health care.

Please cite where the SCHIP program that provides health care to millions of kids of working families has not been efficient, successful and accepted enthusiastically by all parties involved, particularly (parents of) patients and health care providers.

The only inefficiencies I have heard from those oppososed to the program is that many eligible families have not signed up for the program - so it must not be working, despite the fact that it is working extraordinarily well for 6+ million kids.
Actually what was stated is that in a general sense the government has failed to adequately administer most anything it touches that does not involve waste, abuse, and mismanagement.

In the case of SCHIP RWF has reported the following. In all its good it has basically failed:

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“The State of Kids’ Coverage” was released today by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF). The report shows that the number of uninsured children has decreased by 2 million since the creation of SCHIP and recent expansions in public programs. In the same period, the number of uninsured Americans has increased by nearly 5 million people.

The percentage of children who have private health insurance has fallen by five percent since 1997-98. That means 1.4 million fewer kids have private health insurance.
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2006/august...uccess_and.php

This is a great link by the KFF that shows how it fell short:

http://www.kff.org/medicaid/upload/7758.pdf

I fully support SCHIP.
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:29 PM   #2
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Actually what was stated is that in a general sense the government has failed to adequately administer most anything it touches that does not involve waste, abuse, and mismanagement.

In the case of SCHIP RWF has reported the following. In all its good it has basically failed:

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2006/august...uccess_and.php
I would not characterize this as a failure:
...a new study analyzing government data suggests good news for the nation’s children. The percentage of uninsured kids in America has decreased by 20 percent since the government-funded State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) was approved by Congress in 1997.

...The report shows that the number of uninsured children has decreased by 2 million since the creation of SCHIP and recent expansions in public programs.

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This is a great link by the KFF that shows how it fell short:

http://www.kff.org/medicaid/upload/7758.pdf

I fully support SCHIP.
So we are in agreement that SCHIP, a government administered health care program, is not wasteful, fraudulent or mismanaged, other than falling short of keeping up with more and more working families loosing their private health insurance.

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Old 09-18-2009, 07:00 PM   #3
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I would not characterize this as a failure:
...a new study analyzing government data suggests good news for the nation’s children. The percentage of uninsured kids in America has decreased by 20 percent since the government-funded State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) was approved by Congress in 1997...

The report shows that the number of uninsured children has decreased by 2 million since the creation of SCHIP and recent expansions in public programs.
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But yet the number of uninsured has risen above that covered. Hence it has failed to do what it was designed to do..[/quote] But yet the number of uninsured has risen above that covered. Hence it has failed to do what it was designed to do.


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So we are in agreement that SCHIP, a government administered health care program, is not wasteful, fraudulent or mismanaged, other than falling short of keeping up with more and more working families loosing their private health insurance.
No absolutely not.

So how well has SCHIP done since Jan 09 when the Demoncrats and Obama took over and more than 2 million are out of work. The numbers are still out there, but I doubt SCHIP provided for all those familes, hence hundreds of thousands have no healthcare. Right? Or did SCHIP cover those who have lost jobs since The Dems took over?
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:05 AM   #4
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Actually what was stated is that in a general sense the government has failed to adequately administer most anything it touches that does not involve waste, abuse, and mismanagement.
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Especially the military.
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