"Cold Cash" Jefferson Convicted

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

http://www.jpfo.org/ for more. Read and give it thought.

I would suggest that the jpfo chart makes my point.

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm#chart

Ottoman Turkey, Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Red China, Nationalist China, Guatemala, Uganda, Cambodia, Rwanda

A completely bogus argument to compare any of the above to a democratically elected government with a strong central system of separation of powers and checks and balances.

The best safeguard for democracy does not rely on an absolute and unrestricted right to bear arms or any single amendment, but rather on those separation of powers and checks and balances.

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Crooks in the front of us, crooks to rear of us, crooks on the Right, crooks on the Left.

It's been quite a while since Merc said anything I agreed with, so I am marking this one here. Politics attracts lots of crooks as well as the occasional honest person. Gotta watch the buggers reeeeaaaal closely.

Originally Posted by Redux

The best safeguard for democracy does not rely on an absolute and unrestricted right to bear arms or any single amendment, but rather on those separation of powers and checks and balances.

Hear hear. What we (both US citizens and citizens generally) need isn't the right to firepower - imagine a citizen militia trying to take on the actual US military - but the right to access and disseminate information about the above-mentioned crooks.

Digging through financial records and voting records doesn't capture the imagination like taking your AK-47 out to the range for some target practice. It's dull and boring and lacks the phallic machismo, but it is far more important. What use is a gun if you don't even know who is cheating you?

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Hear hear. What we (both US citizens and citizens generally) need isn't the right to firepower - imagine a citizen militia trying to take on the actual US military - but the right to access and disseminate information about the above-mentioned crooks.

Digging through financial records and voting records doesn't capture the imagination like taking your AK-47 out to the range for some target practice. It's dull and boring and lacks the phallic machismo, but it is far more important. What use is a gun if you don't even know who is cheating you?

The pen is mightier than the sword...or an AK-47.