Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Merc...I ask this in all sincerity

Why do you think other members would be inclined to engage you on the issue when for the most part, all you do is snip and post, and mostly from partisan editorials and sites (the ncpa being the latest)...day after day...hour after hour?

Your opinion on the issue is not really important to me. What you state is opinion. You are a partisan hack of the Obamy Administration and the Demoncrats. I am interested in the details of this reform process that is most likely going to come one way or another. It is very important that we keep an eye on the process and details. I am interested in exposing the double standards that the Demoncrats in Congress have shown in the last 2 years, and most importantly in the last 7 months. And if no one else is interested that is ok, but be careful what you wish for because once the deal is done by Congress it is pretty much what you have to live with. The devil is in the details on this issue and very few are looking at those details. This is another Rahm it through and Pelosi Push with very little chance for input by anyone other than the Demoncrats special interest groups and the deals they may have made behind closed doors in the White House. Who knows because they are covering up the details of those discussions. I fully support an overhaul of the system but not on the terms of any one party with a grip on power, be it Demoncrats or Republickins.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Your opinion on the issue is not really important to me. What you state is opinion. You are a partisan hack of the Obamy Administration and the Demoncrats. I am interested in the details of this reform process that is most likely going to come one way or another.....

If you honestly believed that, you would expose the partisan hacks on the right as well, rather than snip and post them and highlight portions of those snips that has no basis in fact.

Consider the recent example I called you out on:

The bill even empowers physicians to make an "actionable medical order" to "limit some or all specified interventions..." In effect, the government can determine that a "life-limiting" condition demands the withholding of treatment.

There is no such provision in the House bill.

You dont want an honest debate.

You want to troll with your never ending snips and pastes, with little regard to the accuracy and/or context of those snips.

And you simply want to attack Obama and the Democrats, which is your right.

Perhaps it gives you pleasure or, in your own mind, you score a point....whether its to bitch about the cost of a night in NY for the president, accusing a newly elected senator of being a pedophile (WTF was that all about?) or trivializing the discussion(s) at every opportunity.

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Perhaps you may find your answer in the fact that no one else has bothered to participate in the last 28 posts.

You should visit the other parts of the Cellar outside of Politics, Redux. You'll find lots more entertainment and less frustration.

I think you're right...it is time for me to wander around the Cellar more.....and limit poking Merc with a stick to the occasions when his snips contain bullshit that is so thick it permeates beyond the walls of the politics forum and wreaks throughout the Cellar....like the example above.

But its so easy to debunk him on those occasions, its not very challenging any more.

On the other hand, I still enjoy engaging the Urbane Guerilla. Now there is a challenge!

With all the utter madness that I read in his posts, at least UG expresses himself in his own words, often in a very creative (albeit not factual) manner. He's an original and not a parrot for every wing nut editorial writer or blogger that one encounters with Merc's ceaseless snips.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

You dont want an honest debate.

But yet you refuse to defend him. And so far you have debunked nothing.

The Repulickins are not in charge. The Demoncrats are the ones in charge and they are the ones with the power. Most of what the Repubs are saying at this point are really insignificant.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

But yet you refuse to defend him. And so far you have debunked nothing.

I made my point.

Any dwellers who care to follow the crazy ass threads with your multiple snips and pastes, with little or no thoughts of your own, other than snarky and inane one line comments (I would hardly call them discussions in most instances), can decide for themselves.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I made my point.

Any dwellers who care to follow the crazy ass threads with your multiple snips and pastes, with little or no thoughts of your own (I can hardly call them discussions in most instances), can decide for themselves.

So you refuse to defend his practices or those of the Demoncrats? that speaks volumes as to your intentions and confirms you to me nothing more than a political hack, as I mentioned earlier. What are you Demoncrats afraid of?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So you refuse to defend his practices or those of the Demoncrats? that speaks volumes as to your intentions and confirms you to me nothing more than a political hack, as I mentioned earlier. What are you Demoncrats afraid of?

I said on more than one occasion....any time you to cease with the partisan snips and pastes and actually offer your own thoughts and opinions, I'll be ready.

And every time, you turned me down. I understand, its just not your style to "discuss" on a discussion board. You would rather troll (by most forum standards, snipping and pasting w/o commentary is trolling).

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I said on more than one occasion....any time you to cease with the partisan snips and pastes and actually offer your own thoughts and opinions, I'll be ready.

And every time, you turned me down. I understand, its just not your style to "discuss" on a discussion board.

Sure, go ahead and defend their positions and then we can "discuss". To date you have failed to do anything of the such. You wear rose colored glasses. Why don't you start with how your guys are going to pay for it and how it will be self sustaining in 10 years.