Australian Businessman Accused of Spying by Chinese Govt

Aliantha · 07-22-2009, 05:42 PM

OK, so he paid or offered bribes to get his project moving. Let's assume this is a fact.

Do you know that it's a fact that pretty much any major project to do with mining in almost every country other than western democratic countries includes in the budget, money for bribes to officials just to get things done.

Here's an example.

Last time Dazza was in PNG, he had to pay the port authority in port moresby a certain amount of money or they wouldn't allow their boat to leave the port. This was by customs officials. People you would think would be inclined to follow the law, but no, that's not the case.

Corruption and bribery are simply a normal part of the business proceedure in China. I'm sure it's probably true what the Chinese govt are accusing this man of, but he's obviously pissed them off somehow - and most likely in a way they don't want known publicly - so they're charging him for a crime that he's committed and has probably committed many times during the normal course of business as punishment for whatever else he's done. maybe he paid off the wrong person, or didn't pay enough, or threatened to go public with something. There is such a huge amount of money at stake with trade relations between Australia and China, and Rio Tinto is one of the leading players.

TheMercenary · 07-22-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Corruption and bribery are simply a normal part of the business proceedure in China.

As it is in just about every other country in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.

casimendocina · 07-23-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

There is such a huge amount of money at stake with trade relations between Australia and China, and Rio Tinto is one of the leading players.

A few key phrases from a brief article on the issue which confirm Aliantha's comment on the issue. (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...hina-minister/)

'Mr Smith (Foreign Minister) said Mr Yang stressed China's relationship with Australia would not be compromised by the detention of Mr Hu, a Chinese-born Australian citizen.

"Both of us have been at pains to make the point that we don't see this going to the wider relationship, which we regard as very good on the economic front," he said.'

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Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	OK, so he paid or offered bribes to get his project moving. Let's assume this is a fact. Do you know that it's a fact that pretty much any major project to do with mining in almost every country other than western democratic countries includes in the budget, money for bribes to officials just to get things done. Here's an example. Last time Dazza was in PNG, he had to pay the port authority in port moresby a certain amount of money or they wouldn't allow their boat to leave the port. This was by customs officials. People you would think would be inclined to follow the law, but no, that's not the case. Corruption and bribery are simply a normal part of the business proceedure in China. I'm sure it's probably true what the Chinese govt are accusing this man of, but he's obviously pissed them off somehow - and most likely in a way they don't want known publicly - so they're charging him for a crime that he's committed and has probably committed many times during the normal course of business as punishment for whatever else he's done. maybe he paid off the wrong person, or didn't pay enough, or threatened to go public with something. There is such a huge amount of money at stake with trade relations between Australia and China, and Rio Tinto is one of the leading players. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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