Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[Happy Monkey]

They won't take a cut on the people using the public option. I don't know what reforms will be made in the industry as a whole.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

They won't take a cut on the people using the public option. I don't know what reforms will be made in the industry as a whole.

Maybe not directly, but who ever provides that insurance for the government will be taking a cut for themselves. And that will most likely come from a combination of your taxes and companies who will most likely bail on providing any insurance to their employees. So yea, they will get their cut from you one way or another.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I don't know what reforms will be made in the industry as a whole.

Just for general information, do you think that you should get free health care or that someone else should be responsible for your health care bills?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Maybe not directly, but who ever provides that insurance for the government will be taking a cut for themselves. And that will most likely come from a combination of your taxes and companies who will most likely bail on providing any insurance to their employees. So yea, they will get their cut from you one way or another.

I'm not sure what this says. How will insurance companies take a cut if employers dump the insurance companies in favor of the public option?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Just for general information, do you think that you should get free health care or that someone else should be responsible for your health care bills?

I want to pay for healthcare in taxes, so it's there when I need it.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I'm not sure what this says. How will insurance companies take a cut if employers dump the insurance companies in favor of the public option?

According to the most recent plan, employers who do not provide insurance will have to pay $750 per employee to the government if they do not provide it. Note this is just one plan being floated. But it is a comon theme among the schemes coming up with ways to pay it.

I want to pay for healthcare in taxes, so it's there when I need it.

According to a few of the plans, the only people who will pay extra taxes will be people who make more than $150k -$250k, depending on the plans, not people who pay less. This is an oppressive tax on people who have worked hard to make money to pay for those who make less. I would be all for an across the board tax for all incomes, a flat tax if you will, just to pay for health care for all. Say everyone pays a flat 5% from any income they make to pay into the system, I would be perfectly ok with that, but that is not what is being floated.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

According to the most recent plan, employers who do not provide insurance will have to pay $750 per employee to the government if they do not provide it.

And how would the insurance companies take a cut if companies fire them, and fund the public option instead?

According to a few of the plans, the only people who will pay extra taxes will be people who make more than $150k -$250k, depending on the plans, not people who pay less. This is an oppressive tax on people who have worked hard to make money to pay for those who make less. I would be all for an across the board tax for all incomes, a flat tax if you will, just to pay for health care for all. Say everyone pays a flat 5% from any income they make to pay into the system, I would be perfectly ok with that, but that is not what is being floated.

It was floated (a new payroll tax), and I would have been fine with that as well, but IMHO, a tax would have to be considerably higher than 3% to oppress someone making $1 million.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

And how would the insurance companies take a cut if companies fire them, and fund the public option instead?

Another insurance company will take their bite. You still pay for it. Or maybe not. I have heard that only the rich will pay for your health care so you can get it for free. If that happens the socialists will be proud.

It was floated (a new payroll tax), and I would have been fine with that as well, but IMHO, a tax would have to be considerably higher than 3% to oppress someone making $1 million.

No, the amount that at which people will be taxed is much lower.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Another insurance company will take their bite.

How will an insurance company take a bite from someone on the public option?

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Just for general information, do you think that you should get free health care or that someone else should be responsible for your health care bills?

Aren't people still going to have to pay premiums that they can afford? Isn't THAT the whole issue, or at least part of it, that people can't afford paying so much? If so, it really isn't FREE, is it?