California on the Brink

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Wow. I am just amazed at how some people seem to want this country to go down.

We don't, Sugarpop -- but that you hold this view of it tells me your thinking is by no means as unchained from hard leftism as you've in the past claimed.

Google on the phrase "creative destruction" and its economic results for a bit. Not altogether a bad thing, is it?

The only thing that's "going down" is the immense and costly establishment that is Big Government, which must not be confused with "this country." Small Government is our salvation, governmentwise. Knowing this is why I'm a libertarian, and not getting this is why you're not a libertarian. Yet. (I do think your every post shows your profound and wide-ranging ignorance, though. You're a leftist through not knowing any better. So far, anyway. I hope the things you may discover both here and in living adult life for a few years will fix it.)

We mean to recover the United States from its present socialist aberration. We don't know how many years it will take to repair the damage Obama and the Democrats are plunging madly to accomplish before the nation returns to its senses.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Poor California, they are going to go bust just like New York City did. Oh, wait, NYC survived, didn't they.

How much of that $1.7 trillion is Chinese crap passing through to walmart?
How much of that budget is spent supporting and catering to illegals?
When the income drops, ya gotta stop spending... duh.

Where's San Andreas when you need 'em?

[slang]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Wow. I am just amazed at how some people seem to want this country to go down.

They will never change those stupid policies that are causing their problems if we bail them out now...and then 6 months from now... and then again.

There will be pain, there will be blood but they will rebuild more sensibly.

[snarky]Oh, and[/snarky]......looks like someone got handed their ass in a plastic bag for this argument, eh?

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

Rewarding failure is the road to ruin, as we're now demonstrating spectacularly.

This is not something that I'd expect to see here at the cellar but it sure is nice to see.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I want them to go bankrupt and issue IOU's. Just to show that their socialist experiment failed.

Yes, there will be pain for all of us because of this collapse. It's likely going to affect all of us not just folks out west.

Socialism. Watch it fail. Learn from failure.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

The only thing that's "going down" is the immense and costly establishment that is Big Government, which must not be confused with "this country."

That's a good line UG. The US is not the government.....it's people. People like us. Gov't is not the answer to all. We have let this government run wild because we've been comfortable. That is likely to change soon if it hasn't already.

I'm just as guilty or maybe even moreso than the normal citizen. We need more localized control and more involvement. Maybe that would bring us back to reality.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

How much of that budget is spent supporting and catering to illegals?

When the income drops, ya gotta stop spending... duh.

Where's San Andreas when you need 'em?

So many good comments here!

Maybe it's better for me not to comment. Very good thoughts Bruce.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

We don't, Sugarpop -- but that you hold this view of it tells me your thinking is by no means as unchained from hard leftism as you've in the past claimed.

Google on the phrase "creative destruction" and its economic results for a bit. Not altogether a bad thing, is it?

The only thing that's "going down" is the immense and costly establishment that is Big Government, which must not be confused with "this country." Small Government is our salvation, governmentwise. Knowing this is why I'm a libertarian, and not getting this is why you're not a libertarian. Yet. (I do think your every post shows your profound and wide-ranging ignorance, though. You're a leftist through not knowing any better. So far, anyway. I hope the things you may discover both here and in living adult life for a few years will fix it.)

We mean to recover the United States from its present socialist aberration. We don't know how many years it will take to repair the damage Obama and the Democrats are plunging madly to accomplish before the nation returns to its senses.

Respectfully UG, I disagree. I think all you people who are SO pro-business, and think business needs absolutely NO regulation, ar the ones who are ignorant. The business model has proven over and over again that they cannot be trusted to do anything that is in the best interest of the people of this country. They only do what is in their own best interest, and that means putting money in their own pockets at the expense of everyone else.

I agree government should be smaller, but probably not in the same way you do.