Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I don't think Medicare is going to let someone die of cancer when there is treatment available. You certainly don't hear stories about people going into bankruptcy or losing their home and life savings because Medicare wouldn't treat them. You DO hear those stories about private insurance.



I hardly think Donnie Deutsch or Warren Buffet are Hollywood talking heads, and I've heard both of them say that. In fact, Donnie Deutsche said the other day on Morning Joe the best way to pay for health care would be to get the top 100,000 people to pay an additional $100,000 in taxes.

I just want the bottom 60% to pay thier fair share.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I just want the bottom 60% to pay thier fair share.

What is their "fair" share?
When you make BILLIONS of dollars you can certainly afford to pay a LOT more %-wise than if you are living paycheck to paycheck. Honestly, what do you think those people do with all that money? They can never spend it all. Since this country (and the people of this country) helped them become successful, they should certainly return the favor by investing back into this country, and those citizens. But they don't. They screw us by taking jobs overseas to cheaper labor markets, and they move their offices offshore so they get out of paying taxes, and they get subsidies from the government to offset things that, really, THEY should be paying for, not our taxes, and they quit paying for benefits for their employees, and all the other tricks of the trade they use to get out of giving back.

And you know, if wages had kept up with the cost of living, this wouldn't be as much of an issue as it is. But they haven't. Millions of people today are living on LESS than people lived on during the 70s. Pathetic. And we expect them to be able to afford isurance?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

What is their "fair" share?
When you make BILLIONS of dollars you can certainly afford to pay a LOT more %-wise than if you are living paycheck to paycheck. Honestly, what do you think those people do with all that money? They can never spend it all. Since this country (and the people of this country) helped them become successful, they should certainly return the favor by investing back into this country, and those citizens. But they don't. They screw us by taking jobs overseas to cheaper labor markets, and they move their offices offshore so they get out of paying taxes, and they get subsidies from the government to offset things that, really, THEY should be paying for, not our taxes, and they quit paying for benefits for their employees, and all the other tricks of the trade they use to get out of giving back.

And you know, if wages had kept up with the cost of living, this wouldn't be as much of an issue as it is. But they haven't. Millions of people today are living on LESS than people lived on during the 70s. Pathetic. And we expect them to be able to afford isurance?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I no longer give a shit. Everyone needs to feel the pain. Everyone needs to pay.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I no longer give a shit. Everyone needs to feel the pain. Everyone needs to pay.

You mean everyone but the uber rich, right? Because you always defend them, no matter how wrong they are.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

You mean everyone but the uber rich, right? Because you always defend them, no matter how wrong they are.

Bull shit. They should pay the same percentage as I have to pay, 33%. Eveyone should pay the same.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Bull shit. They should pay the same percentage as I have to pay, 33%. Eveyone should pay the same.

I disagree. I think the more money you have, the higher a percentage you should pay. I know we will NEVER agree on this subject though, so I'm dropping it now.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I disagree. I think the more money you have, the higher a percentage you should pay. I know we will NEVER agree on this subject though, so I'm dropping it now.

Good, but don't post bull shit that I support the uber rich. They, and you, and everyone else should pay the same percentage, what ever that is...