Now that's just cheeky...

[DanaC]

Oh I daresay yo're right. Heck look at how hard the Falklanders have fought to stay British.

[sugarpop]

Dana, it's because the right has people all up in a stir about releasing them HERE. And now democrats are also being stupid. Which I find hysterical. WE don't want to take any of them, but we expect others to. We don't even want to try them here and put them in prison here, because, you know, we don't have any prisons capable of holding them. It's absurd. But they have to go somewhere. And there are people here (mostly on the right) who are trying to block the closing of Guantanamo. So he is trying to get the ones out who have been cleared of any crimes.

I never ceases to amaze me, how we just expect others to clean up our mess.

Did you see the pictures of the releasees? They looked so happy, swimming and stuff.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

And there are people here (mostly on the right) who are trying to block the closing of Guantanamo.

Completely UNTRUE! Cite or retract. Have you read about all the conversations and negotiations that went on since 2004 about trying to secure the release of any of these people?

C'mon - you gotta stop spewing this crap. opinion is one thing, but to just make false claims without cites is and purport them as facts makes you no better than ...

[Glinda]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Dana, it's because the right has people all up in a stir about releasing them HERE. And now democrats are also being stupid. Which I find hysterical. WE don't want to take any of them, but we expect others to. We don't even want to try them here and put them in prison here, because, you know, we don't have any prisons capable of holding them. It's absurd. But they have to go somewhere. And there are people here (mostly on the right) who are trying to block the closing of Guantanamo. So he is trying to get the ones out who have been cleared of any crimes.

I never ceases to amaze me, how we just expect others to clean up our mess.

I don't know why we just don't ship them to Hardin, Montana. The folks there want them, and knowing the craziness of many Montanans, if any of the "detainees" () tried to escape, they'd be dead in a New York minute.

I don't see a downside.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Cuba or Hardin, they'd still be illegally detained.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Cuba or Hardin, they'd still be illegally detained.

No need to worry. Obama promised to close Gitmo by Dec. He still has 5 months to do what he promised.

[spudcon]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No need to worry. Obama promised to close Gitmo by Dec. He still has 5 months to do what he promised.

:p

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Cuba or Hardin, they'd still be illegally detained.

Not if they are charged and awaiting trial, or convicted of a crime.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Not if they are charged and awaiting trial, or convicted of a crime.

POWs, darling. Nobody except North Vietnam tries charging POWs with crimes, and we all know this was evidence of how bad North Vietnam sucked. These people practiced war against us, and were captured. End of story, really. Nothing illegal about caging prisoners of war, and it doesn't need to be Congressionally declared to be a perfectly satisfactory war from the lawbook point of view.

Seriously, the notion of criminalizing "practicing foreign policy while Republican" blends stupidity with insanity, frosted with a large dose of totalitarian-sympathizing, which is the abiding characteristic of the moronic. The smart people want the Taliban and other Islamofascists extinct and sterile. And they don't think we'd ever compromise our national virtue getting 'em that way.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

POWs, darling. Nobody except North Vietnam tries charging POWs with crimes, and we all know this was evidence of how bad North Vietnam sucked. These people practiced war against us, and were captured. End of story, really. Nothing illegal about caging prisoners of war, and it doesn't need to be Congressionally declared to be a perfectly satisfactory war from the lawbook point of view.

Seriously, the notion of criminalizing "practicing foreign policy while Republican" blends stupidity with insanity, frosted with a large dose of totalitarian-sympathizing, which is the abiding characteristic of the moronic. The smart people want the Taliban and other Islamofascists extinct and sterile. And they don't think we'd ever compromise our national virtue getting 'em that way.

If they are guilty of a crime, then they should be charged and tried. Otherwise they need to be let go.

And ftr, I want the Taliban and al qaeda extinct and/or sterile too. I want to do it the right way though, and not make even MORE enemies while doing it. After 911, we had most of the world behind us. We fucked that up by attacking Iraq, which btw, took our eyes OFF of the Taliban and al qaeda, and allowed them to become even more strong, and now they are a bigger threat than ever. All because of our own stupidity (well, our leaders anyway).