The 24 hour engagement.

[disenchanted]

tiki: it was no lie. I was freaking out the whole time deciding if I should or shouldn't go forward.

I was freaking out thinking that if I didn't ask soon my chance would be gone.

But do not try to tell me that my I had dishonesty in my heart. Confused, wrong idea, boneheaded. Yeah. But deliberate lie? Screw you.

Originally Posted by disenchanted

tiki: it was no lie. I was freaking out the whole time deciding if I should or shouldn't go forward.

I was freaking out thinking that if I didn't ask soon my chance would be gone.

But do not try to tell me that my I had dishonesty in my heart. Confused, wrong idea, boneheaded. Yeah. But deliberate lie? Screw you.

You obviously did not consciously intend to lie, and you also obviously believe you did not lie. However, I came to the conclusion that you lied to her based on what you posted, as I had nothing else to go on.

Originally Posted by disenchanted

Marriage had been talked about quite a bit, and last weekend she said she didn't want to go on this trip...until I said "Ok, let's take the pressure off and just have a fun weekend then." (this trip had been planned originally as THE BIG WEEKEND.)

You see, since you then went on to propose, it was not truthful when you told her this. That is the part that I cannot help but interpret as not honest, and I kind of suspect that is the part she also is perceiving as not honest.

If things didn't happen the way you stated they happened, perhaps there was no untruth, but according to your own telling, you misled her. That is the part I think you could stand to re-examine; your own thought processes and motives, and what made you believe it was a good idea, or even an acceptable one, to mislead her in order to get her in a position you wanted her in, but which she had been clear she did not want to be in.

[Perry Winkle]

Originally Posted by disenchanted

I was freaking out thinking that if I didn't ask soon my chance would be gone.

I've felt this same thing. It's not a good indicator. If a relationship has an imminent expiration date, then you don't want to go down that path. That's starting out with one foot in the grave.