Impeding changes to our Health Care system

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You will have to wait until the final plan comes out before you are able to speak with such surety about what is and is not going to be offered by the Demoncrats.

But its OK for George Will to write in an editorial "with such surety" that "the administration and its allies, without being candid about what is afoot, are trying to put the nation on a glide path to a "single-payer" — entirely government-run — system."

Hell, you should be holding George Will to a higher standard than you hold me....he has a lot more followers who believe his every word.

I suggest you write him a letter:

Dear George:

I love your work but you will have to wait until the final plan comes out before you are able to speak with such surety about what is and is not going to be offered by the Demoncrats.

Sincerely,
Merc

And in the meantime, there is no proposal on the table to push workers in an employer-based plan to a Medicare-type government-run system!!

Damn...what part of that dont you and classic get?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

But its OK for George Will to write in an editorial "with such surety" that "the administration and its allies, without being candid about what is afoot, are trying to put the nation on a glide path to a "single-payer" — entirely government-run — system."

Hell, you should be holding George Will to a higher standard than you hold me....he has a lot more followers who believe his every word.

There is no proposal on the table to push workers in an employer-based plan to a Medicare-type government-run system!!

Damn...what part of that dont you and classic get?

I think the part you don't get is that the model that Obama and the Dems are using as a change for our current insurance is based on models from the UK, France, Germany, and Japan. Under these programs all government administered health insurance programs, which are privately operated, are not for profit. As I stated the devil will be in the details and at this point we don't know them all yet. But to date what is being proposed will not work on a open market for profit model, a mainstay of our system, unlike all the others that the current admin and dems are proposing. So you really cannot say that this point that "there is no proposal on the table to push workers in an employer-based plan to a Medicare-type government-run system" when in fact that may be the eventual result. You may not say it is planned. I don't see it working any other way.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I think the part you don't get is that the model that Obama and the Dems are using as a change for our current insurance is based on models from the UK, France, Germany, and Japan..

Bullshit.....the model is not a national health service like any of the above.

Rather, the model is the FEHB public/private model....the federal employees health benefit program that ofers choices from Care First (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) to various national and local private insurance PPOs and HMOs...at a variety of benefit levels and prices....and negotiating better pricing from the private providers through a much greater economy of scale.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Bullshit.....the model is not a national health service like any of the above.

Rather, the model is the FEHB public/private model....the federal employees health benefit program that ofers choices from Care First (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) to various national and local private insurance PPOs and HMOs...at a variety of benefit levels and prices....and negotiating better pricing from the private providers through a much greater economy of scale.

Not bullshit. You are un-informed. You need to do more research. The only system that has true national health insurance is Japan and the UK in those models. Even in Japan the insurance is not a government run progam.

Show me the current plan by Obama and the Dems.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I suggest you write him a letter:

Dear George:

I love your work but you will have to wait until the final plan comes out before you are able to speak with such surety about what is and is not going to be offered by the Demoncrats.

Sincerely,
Merc

Mine would be more like, Dear George, Great job. Keep pissing them off.
Sincerely,
Merc

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Mine would be more like, Dear George, Great job. Keep pissing them off.
Sincerely,
Merc

Because that's what you've been, and are, all about.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Because that's what you've been, and are, all about.

I don't worry to much about that any more. "So you heard what you expected to hear, and assumed my intent."