It's all up to Franken now!

wolf · 04-28-2009, 06:23 PM

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"I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate," he said in the statement.

Does anybody else find this statement scary?

At least he's now properly labelled.

sugarpop · 05-01-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Does anybody else find this statement scary?

At least he's now properly labelled.

wolf, what he meant by that statement is, the Republican Party has been backing hard right wing candidates in rebublican primaries against moderate incumbants. The moderate incumbant ends up losing to the hard right candidate, but then the republicans lose in the general election because the candidates are too extreme and people vote for the democrat. It makes no sense. They are giving up seats in order to "purify the party." They were backing another candidate against Specter in the upcoming primaries in 2010. Arlen Specter wasn't willing to just let his seat go. (Primaries never have the number of people voting as the general elections.) In the general election against an extreme candidate he will probably be able to hold on to his seat as a democrat.

TheMercenary · 05-02-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Arlen Specter wasn't willing to just let his seat go.

Because it is about his desire to hang on to power and not losing his job. And for no other reason.

05-02-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Because it is about his desire to hang on to power and not losing his job. And for no other reason.

Maybe he learned that from Richard Shelby, the Senator from Alabama who switched from D to R in the 90s for fear of losing his reelection.

TheMercenary · 05-02-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Redux

Maybe he learned that from Richard Shelby, the Senator from Alabama who switched from D to R in the 90s for fear of losing his reelection.

Maybe he just took a page from his own history instead:

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After graduating from Yale Law School, Specter opened a law practice, Specter & Katz, with Marvin Katz, who is now a Federal District Court Judge in Philadelphia. Specter became an assistant district attorney under District Attorney James Crumlish, and was a Democrat.

In 1965, Specter ran for District Attorney, on the Republican ticket as a registered Democrat. He handily beat incumbent Jim Crumlish, and subsequently changed his registration to Republican.

It is all about him wanting to stay in the Senate and keep the power in his hands.

TGRR · 05-02-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Maybe he just took a page from his own history instead:

It is all about him wanting to stay in the Senate and keep the power in his hands.

Okay.

And now you're down a senator. If Franken makes it, you can't even filibuster. Obama can appoint anyone he likes.

But you've established ideological purity. Congratulations.

TheMercenary · 05-02-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

Okay.

And now you're down a senator. If Franken makes it, you can't even filibuster. Obama can appoint anyone he likes.

But you've established ideological purity. Congratulations.

WTF are you talking about. I'm not down shit. The Republickins are down one the Demoncrats are up one.

sugarpop · 05-06-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

Okay.

And now you're down a senator. If Franken makes it, you can't even filibuster. Obama can appoint anyone he likes.

But you've established ideological purity. Congratulations.

That is assuming all democrats will vote accordingly, and they have proven they won't. The bluedog democrats are siding with republicans.

Personally, I hope a couple of progressive (NOT moderate) democrats decide to challenge him, if he doesn't support at least the main things Obama wants passed, like health care and energy.

sugarpop · 05-06-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Because it is about his desire to hang on to power and not losing his job. And for no other reason.

Can you name ONE politician for which it isn't about that?

TheMercenary · 05-06-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Can you name ONE politician for which it isn't about that?

Anyone who did not switch parties and stand on priniple, right or left, Demoncrat or Republickin, because the popularity of them being re-elected under the umbrella of that party was futile.

slang · 05-03-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

At least he's now properly labelled.

And speaking of rinos, might Senator McCain join in on this change action? One can only hope.

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