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View Poll Results: Do you support saving the US auto companies with tax payer money?
I support saving any one or all of them. 1 3.13%
I support assisting them for a limited time with a limited amount. 11 34.38%
I don't support saving them. 19 59.38%
I have another plan to save them from certain death (explain below) 1 3.13%
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:19 PM   #1
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Then why didn't you buy the best car made?
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:58 PM   #2
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Then why didn't you buy the best car made?
There is no "best car made". But there are cars made by people who innovate - also called patriotic Americans. Opposed to products designed by bean counters that routinely stifle innovation. Buy a GM car to stifle innovation - then blame everyone else. Say, "GM has stifled innovation for 30 years, makes crappy cars, and I love to contribute to the destruction of American jobs. I will buy more crap from people who even lie about their gasoline mileage." Drive one to realize how bad GM management has been - even so evil as to blame the unions.

GM management would not innovate until required by Federal regulations. There are good products. Then there are GM products that obviously destroy American jobs. Can only be sold using the "Buy American" myth. A myth that can only exist when one does not believe in the free market. One need only drive GM cars or view Consumer Reports to realize why a GM product means the destruction of American jobs and subverts principles that make free markets so productive.

So many have so hated America (bought a GM product four and ten years ago) that jobs must now be lost AND parts of America must be sold to foreigner to pay for the resulting debts.

There are plenty of good cars. Why did anyone then buy a GM product? Like it or not, realize it or not; job losses today are due to those who so hated Americans as to buy GM products.

How to put Americans back to work. Buy Honda or Toyota. Then American part suppliers can learn to and make more and better parts - become profitable again. Just another example of why free markets work; why "Buy American" does not.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:13 PM   #3
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Oh, so Nissan, the Koreans and Europeans are out.

The problem of GM's mismanagement has been well documented, especially of late. But what you're telling me is to buy a car that will be patriotic, that you approve of, rather than one that suits my wants and needs, like most people do.
Don't think that's going to set well with most people. Neither is calling them wackos, wingnuts or unpatriotic for doing so. Nope, you lose.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:41 PM   #4
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But what you're telling me is to buy a car that will be patriotic, that you approve of, rather than one that suits my wants and needs, like most people do.
I'm not telling you to do anything. But if you were patriotic, then you knew any 1990 or 2000 GM car was clearly destroying American jobs just by how it drives, its grossly oversized and noisy engine, excessive price and repair costs, its low gas mileage, its management repeatedly running to government to stop any requirements for innovation, ....

It's not proven as of late that GM management was bad. Anyone with respect for America knew that decades ago. It was that obvious that long ago. But then all one need do is drive a Pontiac or see so many neighbors with problems to know that buying a GM car even in the 1990s would only destroy American jobs. Again, simple principles of free market economics.

I am not telling you to do anything. Basic knowledge said you were only undermining America by purchasing the obviously inferior products. Good Americans believe in the free market. Ignorant Americans are told what to do by their 'communist' handlers: "Buy American" only because we say so. Subvert innovation and destroy American jobs. It was your choice - not mine.

Meanwhile, you invented this Nissan, Europeans, and Koreans are out. I did not say that. You did. But again. Your choice. Do you believe in the free market or do what communists and bad management want you to do - "Blindly buy American" only because they tell you to.

The patriot always bought the best. Therefore voted to advance America. Those are people who make American great.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:52 PM   #5
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OK, I need a pickup and I want a convertible. Make your recommendation for a convertible pickup.
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:59 PM   #6
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OK, I need a pickup and I want a convertible. Make your recommendation for a convertible pickup.
You could have done the research. What were response sources recommending by using facts and numbers? And what year?
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:17 PM   #7
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You could have done the research. What were response sources recommending by using facts and numbers? And what year?
I did the research. There was only one, Chevy. I bought it and I love it. Maybe I should put magnetic flags all over it so my neighbors think I'm patriotic, ya think?
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