Does Anyone feel like Bailing - Page 53

xoxoxoBruce · 04-16-2009, 11:19 AM

Having someone monitor the damn weeds for the next 5 years adds up too.

classicman · 04-16-2009, 12:17 PM

Is that S.O.P. or is all that different than any other roadway project? Does anyone here know?

Happy Monkey · 04-16-2009, 03:41 PM

I would guess it's SOP for any construction in areas designated for environmental protection, but that's just a guess.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-17-2009, 12:03 AM

Good guess, and that's the problem.
Every one of these construction projects has the same problem as every pentagon materials buy. They are so steeped in SOP, needed or not, it triples the cost of everything. It makes everything so expensive many things that should be done, and could be done simply for a reasonable cost and within a reasonable time frame, simply don't get done.
Well, they don't get done until something tragic happens anyway.

classicman · 04-17-2009, 07:40 AM

Ahhhh - thats another unforeseen cost - the glatts err, lawyers. Risk of suits and all.

sugarpop · 04-18-2009, 07:53 PM

errr, what is SOP?

classicman · 04-19-2009, 11:02 AM

Standard Operating Procedure

sugarpop · 04-19-2009, 12:50 PM

ahhh, OK, thanks classic.

I am HOPING that Obama puts an end to SOP. He has vowed to cut waste, and that sounds like a lot of money going out simply because contractors have always gotten away with it. Just because something is being paid for by the govenment doesn't mean contractors should get a blank check. They have gotten away with robbing us blind for decades. It's time for that to stop. And Obama said as much in a speech he made not too long ago. so yea Obama!

xoxoxoBruce · 04-19-2009, 04:11 PM

The other night we were discussing at work why the man-hours per unit has crept up better than 5k. Basically it's because the customer is demanding the place look like no work is being done, 100% of the time. After I retire I'll be able to expound at length.

TheMercenary · 04-22-2009, 07:50 AM

This guy bailed.

Freddie Mac Exec Found Dead At Home
David Kellermann, Acting Chief Financial Officer Of Embattled Mortgage Company, Dead In Apparent Suicide

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4961169.shtml

sugarpop · 04-22-2009, 05:56 PM

I saw that. I wonder if had committed some kind of fraud or something and he couldn't live with it anymore. That's what came to my mind. Of course, it could have absolutely nothing to do with that. He could just be depressed because his relationship was tanking or something.

Happy Monkey · 04-23-2009, 04:00 AM

Of course, he's now on the right wingers' Obama Death List.

classicman · 04-23-2009, 07:45 AM

Did he know the Clintons?

just add him to the list.
j/k

xoxoxoBruce · 04-25-2009, 11:16 AM

It's his wifes fault, she said she wanted a man that's hung.

sugarpop · 04-25-2009, 09:36 PM

*groan*

04-16-2009, 11:19 AM	#781
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Having someone monitor the damn weeds for the next 5 years adds up too. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-16-2009, 12:17 PM	#782
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Is that S.O.P. or is all that different than any other roadway project? Does anyone here know? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-16-2009, 03:41 PM	#783
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I would guess it's SOP for any construction in areas designated for environmental protection, but that's just a guess. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

04-17-2009, 12:03 AM	#784
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Good guess, and that's the problem. Every one of these construction projects has the same problem as every pentagon materials buy. They are so steeped in SOP, needed or not, it triples the cost of everything. It makes everything so expensive many things that should be done, and could be done simply for a reasonable cost and within a reasonable time frame, simply don't get done. Well, they don't get done until something tragic happens anyway. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-17-2009, 07:40 AM	#785
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Ahhhh - thats another unforeseen cost - the glatts err, lawyers. Risk of suits and all. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-18-2009, 07:53 PM	#786
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	errr, what is SOP?

04-19-2009, 11:02 AM	#787
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Standard Operating Procedure __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-19-2009, 12:50 PM	#788
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	ahhh, OK, thanks classic. I am HOPING that Obama puts an end to SOP. He has vowed to cut waste, and that sounds like a lot of money going out simply because contractors have always gotten away with it. Just because something is being paid for by the govenment doesn't mean contractors should get a blank check. They have gotten away with robbing us blind for decades. It's time for that to stop. And Obama said as much in a speech he made not too long ago. so yea Obama!

04-19-2009, 04:11 PM	#789
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	The other night we were discussing at work why the man-hours per unit has crept up better than 5k. Basically it's because the customer is demanding the place look like no work is being done, 100% of the time. After I retire I'll be able to expound at length. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-22-2009, 07:50 AM	#790
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	This guy bailed. Freddie Mac Exec Found Dead At Home David Kellermann, Acting Chief Financial Officer Of Embattled Mortgage Company, Dead In Apparent Suicide http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4961169.shtml __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

04-22-2009, 05:56 PM	#791
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I saw that. I wonder if had committed some kind of fraud or something and he couldn't live with it anymore. That's what came to my mind. Of course, it could have absolutely nothing to do with that. He could just be depressed because his relationship was tanking or something.

04-23-2009, 04:00 AM	#792
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Of course, he's now on the right wingers' Obama Death List. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

04-23-2009, 07:45 AM	#793
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Did he know the Clintons? just add him to the list. j/k __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-25-2009, 11:16 AM	#794
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's his wifes fault, she said she wanted a man that's hung. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-25-2009, 09:36 PM	#795
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	groan

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