Stolen plane

[classicman]

served - that lil trip did more than just give others our reaction time.

[glatt]

If our response times are so secret, then why did a spokesman for Homeland Security give the story to the press? You would think that they would keep it quiet.

Edit: I can understand the Sheriffs office in bumfuck nowhere spilling some information, but why did NORAD and Homeland Security give away such secret info? Maybe it's not that secret?

[Trilby]

does no one care this guy is suicidal?


sheesh.

[Apollo]

I don't think we know that he's suicidal. There could be a number of reasons why he did what he did.

[Queen of the Ryche]

Originally Posted by Apollo

I don't think we know that he's suicidal. There could be a number of reasons why he did what he did.

"Adam Leon, 31, says he stole the plane because he was trying to kill himself and was hoping the military jets would shoot him down."

[classicman]

Originally Posted by glatt

If our response times are so secret, then why did a spokesman for Homeland Security give the story to the press? You would think that they would keep it quiet.

Edit: I can understand the Sheriffs office in bumfuck nowhere spilling some information, but why did NORAD and Homeland Security give away such secret info? Maybe it's not that secret?

I recognize that this instance appears to be nothing more than one guy doing what he did. But there are or could be farther reaching ramifications to it. You brought up "secret" not I. Don't know where you are headed with that.

Do you personally know what our reaction time is? I certainly don't, but you don't need to worry about me flying a plane into anything.

Either way it is valuable real life experience & data for anyone who might be considering using planes as weapons.

[Apollo]

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche

"Adam Leon, 31, says he stole the plane because he was trying to kill himself and was hoping the military jets would shoot him down."

Whoops.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by glatt

If our response times are so secret, then why did a spokesman for Homeland Security give the story to the press? You would think that they would keep it quiet.

Edit: I can understand the Sheriffs office in bumfuck nowhere spilling some information, but why did NORAD and Homeland Security give away such secret info? Maybe it's not that secret?

What they leaked to the press may not have been... *cough100%accuratecough* or could have been... A-a-a-a-ch-hooooodeliberatelymisleadingexcuseme*.

[tw]

Originally Posted by dar512

We don't know that the guy is harmless.

Of course we do. But define harmless. If someone steals a car, is he attempting to take down buildings?

Well someone stole a Cessna in FL, did crash it into a large building. What happened? A whole office was destroyed. Not an office building. Not a floor in that building. A whole office. It was a Cessna for Christ sake. It was simply stolen by someone who walked out, started the plane and flew away.

Why is this story even in the news? A stolen car would do as much damage. Cars are stolen routinely. And many are tracked every day as stolen cars even cross international borders. None of those are news worthy. But this was a Cessna. An event that does not happen every day. A unique event that still is not a significant threat. Only an extremist (or someone as dumb as an extremist) would cast an alarm as if Saddam had more WMDs.

A Ryder truck can take out a whole building. Even more dangerous are 18 wheelers. Large trucks are hijacked or stolen every month. Where are those massive dangers to American from classicman? Oh. What is routine but a greater threat does not cast hype and fear? Exactly. Only wackos see this as bin Laden lurker to kill us all.

Clearly, if the pilot had been OJ Simpson, then we should all be frightened. Not.

Don't let these wackos promote more hype, hate, and fear. They want power. Wackos love to destroy using their fears and myths. It makes them feel strong. Instead, keep life in perspective. It was a Cessna followed by F-16s. Just like a stolen car would be followed by police if it too crossed the border from Canada to the US.

Fear more hijacked and stolen tractor trailers every month. Unlike the Cessna, those can actually do serious damage. Only a wacko would see a single engine Cessna as a threat to America.

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

served - that lil trip did more than just give others our reaction time.

Again posting more extremist fears. As glatt noted, "If our response times are so secret, then why did a spokesman for Homeland Security give the story to the press?" Same information is available in the 911 Commission report complete with reasons for that response time.

See those placards on trucks that identify the cargo? Essential information for firemen and other first responders. But wackos so fear terrorist everywhere as to want to remove those placards. Terrorist might use those placards to destroy America.

Why mock extremists like classicman? Well he routinely posted insults constantly at this poster. Time to use that one wacko as an example of who really is America’s greatest threat. Classicman would rather endanger firemen's lives because bin Laden might use those placards to target trucks. Wacko extremist fears are everywhere. It’s not terrorists that are the threat. Wackos see enemies lurking under every bed. Wackos cannot put reality into perspective.

[classicman]

tommy boy, Have you apologized for lying yet ? If not STFU.

Original LIE Posted by tw

According to classicman – retention bonuses because he (Wagoner)was doing so much good for GM.

False. Please CITE ONE TIME where I said anything about Wagoner deserving bonuses - Post anything to corroborate another of tw's blatant LIES. If not post an public apology and correction on the board. I have put up with tw's attacks for too long. It stops now. Either back it up with facts or STFU.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Why extremists like tw mock posters like classicman?

tommy boy . . . you still haven't responded to this or this

[dar512]

Originally Posted by dar512

We don't know that the guy is harmless.

Originally Posted by tw

Of course we do.

Really? Friend of yours?

Unless you've known this guy for years or you've done an in-depth background check, you don't know what mayhem this guy is capable of -- and even then you can be mistaken. You're just assuming things based on what he said about himself. Very sloppy reasoning, tw.

I admit you can't assume he's a black hat either.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

Again I'm posting more extremist fears.
See those placards on trucks that identify the cargo? Essential information for firemen and other first responders. Terrorist might use those placards to destroy America.

Yeh, a piece of cardboard on the side of a truck - those can't be forged or changed? That would be much more difficult than say... taking over a commercial airliner.
Good grief. that logic isn't faulty, its nonexistent.

[tw]

Originally Posted by wackoboy

Yeh, a piece of cardboard on the side of a truck -

So where is that daily attack on Obama? Oh. Somebody said you were wrong. That justified your mental breakdown? Obama is off the hook while you prepare a report on squadrons of Al Qaeda Cessnas massing to kill us all.

You do aspire to what Rush Limbaugh preaches; spinning everything into personal attacks. Classic wackoboy.

Looking forward to your next lie embalmed with fear and more personal attacks. Personal attacks to avoid a reality: even Cessnas are conspiring to kill us all. Why stop what you have been doing for months? (Wackos can’t change until told to do so by the leadership.)