Will Soldiers Have to Use Private Ins?

[TheMercenary]

[TGRR]

TGRR,
Wasn't kidding, of course.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Well, then. Sucks to be in Arizona, if that's to be the case.

TGRR,
Knows nothing grows here besides cotton.

Good grief. Arizona, right next to California, the biggest produce state in the country. We still have to ship food, I'm just saying, why do we have to ship it so far? We should try to buy locally as much as possible. SOME produce can certainly be grown in Arizona, can't it? Why yes, it can! http://www.arizonalocalfood.com/

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by lookout123

For the record, I'll cop to using crack in my snarky comment rather than cocaine not out of maliciousness but rather a lack of concern. I don't care if he snorted, smoked, or mainlined... I never bothered to give the issue any thought during the election and I don't now. Other than as fodder for a snarky comment. In the future I promise to do more research and get a second set of eyes for proofreading and factchecking before I take a dig at a public figure.

Get over it TGRR.

hmmm, bush admitted to using cocaine, so I have to wonder if you ever said he did crack? Did you use it here because Obama happens to be black?

[classicman]

That was completely uncalled for :Redcard:

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

That was completely uncalled for :Redcard:

Why? I thought it was totally appropriate.

[ZenGum]

No, a black card would have been appropriate.

[classicman]

thanks Zen.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

hmmm, bush admitted to using cocaine, so I have to wonder if you ever said he did crack? Did you use it here because Obama happens to be black?

yes. absolutely 100 times yes. me and george bush hate black people.


You've now crossed the line from being an irritatingly naive idealist to being a fucking moron. i'll assume you have nothing of value to say from this point on.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by classicman

lol - exactly!

What are you talking about Classicman?

I am asking what you define as "it" in your quote, "Whew. Yup - everyone should have their own manufacturing facility and a garden on their roof. That'd do it?"

Or at least to explain your completely idiotic strawman. You do seem to love those.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Can't you be just a little bit positive about it Bruce? It is a small solution, one that I hope grows, that targets more than one thing, energy efficiency and food. Every little bit will help in creating a greener, more sustainable future.

I was positive... positive it will never be more than a supplement to the supply of fresh, in season, veggies.
I know more than a little about both farming and agricultural history.

Little things like how much land it takes to produce each type of veggie, grain, fruit, dairy, etc, for a city of say a million or three, precludes this plan from possibly being more than a supplement to the supply.

Add the economics, peoples buying/eating habits, questions of property/produce ownership, weather/location, and I am positive.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by lookout123

yes. absolutely 100 times yes. me and george bush hate black people.


You've now crossed the line from being an irritatingly naive idealist to being a fucking moron. i'll assume you have nothing of value to say from this point on.

Why? Because I called you out on something you said?

Crack is used more by black people, cocaine is used more by white people. That is a fact. Crack has much stiffer penalties, probably because it is a "black" drug, which is unfair, so more black people end up in prison, and this country has a long history of having stricter penalties for drugs that are used by minorities. Obama is black; Bush is white. Both admitted using cocaine. You said Obama used crack, not cocaine, so I wanted to know if you ever said Bush used crack as well. If you didn't, the statement you made is racist. If you did, it wasn't. Plain and simple.

And I am not a moron, thank you very much. I am not naive either. You seem to be the one who is naive, probably because the industry you work in is under attack and under a very large microscope. I suppose it is natural that you would want to defend it. But sinking to personal attacks by calling me a moron is low.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I was positive... positive it will never be more than a supplement to the supply of fresh, in season, veggies.
I know more than a little about both farming and agricultural history.

Little things like how much land it takes to produce each type of veggie, grain, fruit, dairy, etc, for a city of say a million or three, precludes this plan from possibly being more than a supplement to the supply.

Add the economics, peoples buying/eating habits, questions of property/produce ownership, weather/location, and I am positive.

I never thought it would solve anything or replace the way food is currently produced. I just think it will help, in more ways than one, as I mentioned.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

What are you talking about Classicman?

I am asking what you define as "it" in your quote, "Whew. Yup - everyone should have their own manufacturing facility and a garden on their roof. That'd do it?"

Or at least to explain your completely idiotic strawman. You do seem to love those.

You call me idiotic and you still want me to explain a post that had NOTHING to do with you. ok, I'll bite, but just cuz I like you. Another poster implied something that I replied to. It had nothing to do with you. In short, NOYB.

[piercehawkeye45]

I was the one who brought up garden roofs and how urban agriculture can make an impact in food production. How can you direct it at Sugarpop and not me when we were talking about the same thing?

Originally Posted by TGRR

Small farms don't feed cities.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Urban agriculture can hopefully make an impact if it starts growing.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

That's a pipe dream.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Green roofs are getting increasingly popular and a few cities (Vancouver and Portland) have started planting large gardens in unused lots with some success. It wouldn't be profitable now, but if sources of energy became cheaper entire buildings could be dedicated to the growth of vegetables and maybe even fruits and grains.

Originally Posted by classicman

Whew. Yup - everyone should have their own manufacturing facility and a garden on their roof. That'd do it.