Will Soldiers Have to Use Private Ins?

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

IF you need a certain treatment, you should be able to get it. It's wrong that insurance companies (or the government) would withhold a treatment that could save a life or make a life more productive and better.

[trolling]Why should we be providing any treatment to anyone? I thought you were in favor of "Natural selection and all of that." If people have a disease, maybe they're supposed to die.[/trolling]

[BDS]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

[trolling]Why should we be providing any treatment to anyone? I thought you were in favor of "Natural selection and all of that." If people have a disease, maybe they're supposed to die.[/trolling]

urdoinitrong

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

[trolling]Why should we be providing any treatment to anyone? I thought you were in favor of "Natural selection and all of that." If people have a disease, maybe they're supposed to die.[/trolling]

heh. I am, but since we have medicine, why should only people with means have access to it? Natural selection would apply to everyone, the way I think of it. That means even rich people wouldn't have access to any treatment they couldn't do themselves.

[jinx]

I am, but since we have medicine, why should only people with means have access to it?

Because medicine is a product and service like anything else. If you want things, whatever those things are, you need to work for them.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by jinx

Because medicine is a product and service like anything else. If you want things, whatever those things are, you need to work for them.

Medicine should not a be a product/service like every other product/service. We can just agree to disagree on that point because I can see where that argument is going.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Sorry, but a corporation is there to supply a service or product to the public, and jobs to people.

Dream on ya hippie. The corp/company is there to MAKE MONEY. Whatever they do that is the primary goal.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I believe doctors and nurses and others in medicine make a very comfortable living in other countries that have a single payer system. Why should medicine be about profit? You see where it's gotten us?

Really? I have no idea, but many do come here too.
Where has medicine for profit gotten us? Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I'm talking about the top 2%. You are talking about average rich people with jobs instead of empires. If the progressive tax system was not riddled with loopholes it would be a very fair system.

How much does the "average rich" person make?

Originally Posted by sugarpop

AVERAGE insurance policies for an individual are over 5k/year, and for a family average over $15k/year.

False. I pay for my own (ee+fam on a two tier system) and its about $432 a month - you do the math. Its an HMO with a very large company.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Medicine should not a be a product/service like every other product/service. We can just agree to disagree on that point because I can see where that argument is going.

I agree with Jinx.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

Dream on ya hippie. The corp/company is there to MAKE MONEY. Whatever they do that is the primary goal.

Whatever. I disagree.

Really? I have no idea, but many do come here too.
Where has medicine for profit gotten us? Please elaborate.

Well, just look at the mess we're in now. THAT'S where it's gotten us.

How much does the "average rich" person make?

Not 5 million/year.

False. I pay for my own (ee+fam on a two tier system) and its about $432 a month - you do the math. Its an HMO with a very large company.

I was going by all the statistics put out during the campaign, and also basing it on some people I know who can't afford insurance but make a reasonable income.[/quote]

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by jinx

Because medicine is a product and service like anything else. If you want things, whatever those things are, you need to work for them.

I agree with you. but when medicine has become so costly that many millions of people can't afford it, there is something VERY WRONG with that picture. And it is just getting worse. Some things just should not be about profit. Medicine is one of them.