Mar 22, 2009: EDAR - Page 4

Clodfobble · 03-23-2009, 04:45 PM

And then, if they got into a "who has the worst drivers' license picture" conversation, they would totally win.

capnhowdy · 03-23-2009, 04:49 PM

I slept in a car behind my bro's house for a week or so when I was a teenager. Not too bad. But I was a teenager. Prolly be rough now.

capnhowdy · 03-23-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

And then, if they got into a "who has the worst drivers' license picture" conversation, they would totally win.

For example:
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Pie · 03-23-2009, 04:59 PM

Thank you for the nightmares, Capn.

Cicero · 03-23-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Which bring up a good point... $500 will get you a car, on Craigslist.

Getting it official costs a little more, and it may not actually run for very long, but it's a car and even provides an emergency, though pricey, source of heat.

Plus it may lock and prevent vandals from stealing your stuff.

Well, why don't you just put a hole right through my dreams then?

What if I can get it in a baby-blue color though?

Shawnee123 · 03-23-2009, 06:20 PM

capn, dammit.

monster · 03-23-2009, 08:37 PM

I think it's a great idea and I think it looks like a great design, and I don't doubt that $500 is remarkably cheap for what is involved..... but I seriously doubt that they are going to last as long as they are built for. Many homeless people are so because they're incapable of taking care of themselves, never mind their possessions. A lot of them need so much more than just a roof. I admire the sentiment, I'm concerned about it's practicality. I feel that at that cost, the charity needs to find some way to encourage them to take good care of it. many homeless are addicts to various different substances. When their need got bad enough, what would prevent them from trading it for a hit, or abandoning in search of a hit and it not being there when they come back? Will the charity also be providing locks? With loseable keys or forgettable combinations? they are so many people who prey on the homeless (including other homeless who are just higher up the pecking order and natural bullies/psychos....) this could just become another thing to beat them with unless there are so many they all get one..... maybe they could add thumbprint ID machines to unlock the wheels. But then what of the homeless lepers?

capnhowdy · 03-23-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

Thank you for the nightmares, Capn.

's my job.

Stormieweather · 03-23-2009, 08:56 PM

Sounds just like a ad hoc committee on the issue of the homeless. There is something wrong with every suggestion, so nothing at all gets done.

monster · 03-23-2009, 11:15 PM

fair point....

lumberjim · 03-23-2009, 11:22 PM

why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these?

monster · 03-23-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these?

or this

lumberjim · 03-23-2009, 11:34 PM

well. yes......i should have thought of that

xoxoxoBruce · 03-24-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these?

Too regressive;

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Does the EDAR enable homelessness by making it more bearable? No, he insists. "Why is the EDAR not regressive?" he said. "Because it is not nearly as good as a shelter bed. There's no pretense it's as good as permanent or temporary brick-and-mortar housing." But it is, he says, "infinitely better than a damp cardboard box."

JuancoRocks · 03-24-2009, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I think one of the big differences between the EDAR and a Walmart tent is that the EDAR is elevated off the ground. There must be some advantage to not having your ass lying directly on the, in many cases, freezing cold hard ground.

Actually in cold weather lying on the ground is warmer than being elevated above the ground as you can never warm the airspace and cold continues to penetrate above. (experience)

Now lying on wet ground is another story entirely.

03-23-2009, 04:45 PM	#46
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03-23-2009, 04:49 PM	#47
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	I slept in a car behind my bro's house for a week or so when I was a teenager. Not too bad. But I was a teenager. Prolly be rough now. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

03-23-2009, 04:59 PM	#49
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	Thank you for the nightmares, Capn. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

03-23-2009, 06:20 PM	#51
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	capn, dammit. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-23-2009, 08:37 PM	#52
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	I think it's a great idea and I think it looks like a great design, and I don't doubt that $500 is remarkably cheap for what is involved..... but I seriously doubt that they are going to last as long as they are built for. Many homeless people are so because they're incapable of taking care of themselves, never mind their possessions. A lot of them need so much more than just a roof. I admire the sentiment, I'm concerned about it's practicality. I feel that at that cost, the charity needs to find some way to encourage them to take good care of it. many homeless are addicts to various different substances. When their need got bad enough, what would prevent them from trading it for a hit, or abandoning in search of a hit and it not being there when they come back? Will the charity also be providing locks? With loseable keys or forgettable combinations? they are so many people who prey on the homeless (including other homeless who are just higher up the pecking order and natural bullies/psychos....) this could just become another thing to beat them with unless there are so many they all get one..... maybe they could add thumbprint ID machines to unlock the wheels. But then what of the homeless lepers? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-23-2009, 08:56 PM	#54
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	Sounds just like a ad hoc committee on the issue of the homeless. There is something wrong with every suggestion, so nothing at all gets done. __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

03-23-2009, 11:15 PM	#55
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	fair point.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

03-23-2009, 11:22 PM	#56
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	why fuck around? why not just hook them up with these? __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-23-2009, 11:34 PM	#58
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	well. yes......i should have thought of that __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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