Can we stop talking about friggin' immigration?

[glatt]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, because we know that people that are caught, "smoking pot, pirating music, breaking traffic laws, etc." are punished, whereas these criminals are not.

That's not true. People are deported every day. They aren't catching everyone, but they also aren't catching all music pirates or drug users.

Originally Posted by lookout123

Music piracy isn't an in your face issue with a vocal group of people saying "it's ok to steal it if you can't afford it", so that isn't even in the same ballpark.

It's true, it's not an in your face issue. And that's my point. Music piracy is against the law. We all know people who have done it, or we do it ourselves, and nobody cares. I certainly don't. But we can't watch all the piracy going on and shrug our shoulders, and at the same time claim that we are all about enforcing the law.

Originally Posted by lookout123

The reason illegal immigration keeps popping up is because it is something that affects every one of us. There is a large vocal group...

The immigration issue is dominating the press, so it's also dominating the conversation here. That much is certainly true and understandable. But the question is "why is it dominating the press?" and I think the answer is because we see the country changing and it scares us and makes us mad. It's changing to something different. Because these people are different.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by glatt

That's not true. People are deported every day. They aren't catching everyone, but they also aren't catching all music pirates or drug users.

Whoopee do, a free ride home and the they waltz right back. They aren't catching them all, because they aren't even trying, the only ones they catch are the ones that get in their face. If they run afoul of the law the cops aren't even allowed to inform the fucking INS, like they don't work for the same taxpayers.
I know of a bunch of Nigerians in MA that have overstayed their student visas for 8 or 10 years. Every year the Federal Government sends them a letter telling them to leave the country, which they ignore. Can't find them? Bullshit, they ain't trying.

@bluecuracao, if you are bothered by people that don't agree with you on every issue, you must have a very small circle of friends.

[bluecuracao]

A) the INS doesn't exist anymore.

B) You're misunderstanding what I was trying to say.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I stand corrected, the USCIS.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Thanks UT, everything froze up and I didn't think even one went through. I even closed my browser and then couldn't get back in the Cellar, so I gave up and went to look at porn.