You're either a citizen or you're not

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

What don't you understand?

Why we can't quit giving them govt assistance. If you're illegal, why are you entitled to it?

[classicman]

Oh - In that case we agree. For a moment there I had a WTF moment.

[sugarpop]

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

As for the crime stuff, I swear, just repeal all the friggin' drug laws and let people grow their own. That would get rid of the crime element. Prices would go down because it would be plentiful. Let things like weed open up a new industry. It's ridiculous that weed is illegal. It's safer than alcohol. And the tax we could collect on it would be astonomical, not to mention we would save on the "drug war." Controlling other certain substances and taxing them, like we did with alcohol, would help with more hardcore drugs. (No, I don't think those drugs are good. But I think drug laws do more harm than the actual drugs.)

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

snip~ The small time smugglers/hustlers that you might find in the boondocks, while they may be dangerous, the real criminals that are committing armed robberies, home invasions, kidnappings and murders, worry me much more. They should have never gotten past the border.

[sugarpop]

I watched a thing on weed on cnbc tonight. Since the state law in California is legal for medicinal purposes, there are dispencaries where people with prescriptions can legally buy pot. The people who run those dispencaries pay taxes, a LOT of taxes. the rest of the country should follow suit.

Eric Holder apparently said states will now be in control of their marijuana laws. Good. It's about friggin' time.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I watched a thing on weed on cnbc tonight. Since the state law in California is legal for medicinal purposes, there are dispencaries where people with prescriptions can legally buy pot. The people who run those dispencaries pay taxes, a LOT of taxes. the rest of the country should follow suit.

Eric Holder apparently said states will now be in control of their marijuana laws. Good. It's about friggin' time.

I think there is still some major confilict with the fed. I can't remember what it was, maybe in the state of Washington, maybe BigV can help out here.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Why we can't quit giving them govt assistance. If you're illegal, why are you entitled to it?

I will go so far as to say they should be allowed to use an emergency room...but that INS should be informed.

Now, as far as INS goes, we really kind of need to let the INS do its job...and we need to kick every president since Carter up and down the street, for telling the INS to back off.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TGRR

I will go so far as to say they should be allowed to use an emergency room...but that INS should be informed.

Now, as far as INS goes, we really kind of need to let the INS do its job...and we need to kick every.....

one of them here illegally - OUT

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by classicman

one of them here illegally - OUT

Yes, the conclusion of both of my statements taken together agree with that.

I feel for 'em, you know? I understand what they're trying to do...you know, live a better life.

But that isn't our problem.

[classicman]

No it isn't. Perhaps they could try to make their own country better.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by classicman

No it isn't. Perhaps they could try to make their own country better.

You'd just get shot by the drug lords, who have 60% of the population actively backing them.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by TGRR

You'd just get shot by the drug lords, who have 60% of the population actively backing them.

Originally Posted by TGRR

But that isn't our problem.

[TheMercenary]

[TGRR]

Yep.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

I will go so far as to say they should be allowed to use an emergency room...but that INS should be informed.

Now, as far as INS goes, we really kind of need to let the INS do its job...and we need to kick every president since Carter up and down the street, for telling the INS to back off.

Well hospitals have had to close because of people using the emergency room like a doctor's office (not just illegals, but people without insurance as well). The INS isn't even allowed to ask your legal status. THAT is wrong.

[quote=TGRRI feel for 'em, you know? I understand what they're trying to do...you know, live a better life.[/quote]

Yes, me too. But they should come legally. IMHO, the only way to stop the problem is to cut it off at the top, with the people who hire them.