ACORN'S HOUSING-RIGHTS HUSTLERS

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I trust the experince that lookout related. Combined with reports in the press about their practices during the election, that is good enough for me.

Merc...why am I not surprised that its "good enough for you" to believe hearsay ("the courts and the media hid my testimony and covered up for acorn") and sensationalism in the press stirred up by the right ("acorn's massive election fraud" that never resulted in any charges) if it supports your pre-determined belief, rather than seek out the facts.

Dont you want to at least watch his video and read his transcripts with me?

Maybe if you ask nicely, he will post it for us.

[dar512]

"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest." -- Paul Simon, The Boxer

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Redux

Merc...why am I not surprised that its "good enough for you" to believe hearsay

Depends on who is giving the hearsay.

[lookout123]

Merc...why am I not surprised that its "good enough for you" to believe hearsay ("the courts and the media hid my testimony and covered up for acorn") and sensationalism in the press stirred up by the right ("acorn's massive election fraud" that never resulted in any charges) if it supports your pre-determined belief, rather than seek out the facts.

The courts didn't hide anything that I'm aware of. You asked why I didn't tell anyone about my experiences with ACORN and I simply stated that I did. My depositions disclosed my experiences.

1) I wrote loans for people. I don't read or write spanish so I've never done a loan for anyone who doesn't speak English.

2) Several of my clients, along with many more that ACORN rounded up, claimed they spoke no english so didn't understand the loans.

3) ACORN got plenty of press by having jackasses in shark costumes walk picket lines in front of our offices. The news ran stories featuring "poor families who were taken advantage of".

4) When the cases I was involved in (and many of the others I'm aware of) progressed they either fell apart before or during the first appearance in court. They all spoke english. They all read english. they all had crappy credit that is why they had 7-9% mortgages, language and skin color were irrelevent. In the end several of the people admitted ACORN representatives called them (ACORN admitted to pulling loan records and contacting clients) and told them they might not have to pay their mortgages if they said they didn't understand what they signed because of language problems. ACORN of course said maybe an overzealous rep or too might have stepped out of bounds (kind of like what they said when the voter registration fraud came up)

5) Like many other companies targeted by ACORN my company found it easier to write a big check to ACORN for their "community education programs" and make the story go away. ACORN cashed their check and moved onto their next victim(I believe Wells Fargo was the next to follow in our steps, but I'm not positive). Some of the AG's involved in the cases got bumped into governor's mansions. The company agreed to a gag order on any info beyond a touchy feely ACORN helped the little guy press release.

That's the long and short of it. No information was hidden from the courts. The courts simply didn't care. We were sued, cases were dismissed, negative press was affecting business, so the company wrote a check. ACORN wins.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by lookout123

No information was hidden from the courts. The courts simply didn't care. We were sued, cases were dismissed, negative press was affecting business, so the company wrote a check. ACORN wins.

Thats their M.O. Use people to get more money and more power. Illegal? ......Probably.
Provable.... Probably not.
Unethical ...Damn skippy