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Old 02-24-2009, 09:41 PM   #1
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I don't think Obama said this year either mate.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:45 PM   #2
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I don't think Obama said this year either mate.
He's just being being his usual self. Pay no attention.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:47 PM   #3
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I don't think Obama said this year either mate.
Ok, why would anyone be so stupid to even let him include it in his speech. He obviously has no clue about cancer research or how money is doled out to conduct such research. Not to mention the state of the research on cancer in the US. What a frigging moron. leaving that one bit out would have increased the validity of his talking points by 100%.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:51 PM   #4
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Ok, why would anyone be so stupid to even let him include it in his speech. He obviously has no clue about cancer research or how money is doled out to conduct such research. Not to mention the state of the research on cancer in the US. What a frigging moron. leaving that one bit out would have increased the validity of his talking points by 100%.
The ONLY reason why cancer has not been cured, is because it is more profitable for insurance/pharamceutical companies to TREAT it. And yes, I do believe that. Anyone who knows anything about the fraud and greed of pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies knows that is probably the truth.
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:58 PM   #5
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The ONLY reason why cancer has not been cured, is because it is more profitable for insurance/pharamceutical companies to TREAT it. And yes, I do believe that. Anyone who knows anything about the fraud and greed of pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies knows that is probably the truth.
You are fucking killing me!!!!!

And you think Nobama is going to fix this!
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Old 02-25-2009, 07:45 AM   #6
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The ONLY reason why cancer has not been cured, is because it is more profitable for insurance/pharamceutical companies to TREAT it..
Sugar, I agree with many things you have said, but I call bullshit on this statement. Yes, pharma is a greedy lot of backstabbing mofos, but I sincerely doubt cancer will be "cured" in our lifetimes, or possibly forever. Cancer is the end-state of nuclear breakdown; as long as DNA is damageable, life will die of something, and that 'something' is cancer. (Assuming we gain the technology/understanding to fix everything else!)
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:10 AM   #7
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Sugar, I agree with many things you have said, but I call bullshit on this statement. Yes, pharma is a greedy lot of backstabbing mofos, but I sincerely doubt cancer will be "cured" in our lifetimes, or possibly forever. Cancer is the end-state of nuclear breakdown; as long as DNA is damageable, life will die of something, and that 'something' is cancer. (Assuming we gain the technology/understanding to fix everything else!)
Maybe. But I think it's possible. We never come up with cures anymore, we only come up with treatments, which benfits drug companies. Hell the FDA and pharma cos have been trying to shut down vitamin and herbal companies for years, because it cuts into their profit margin.

And I have to say, (another thought here), how can anyone say anything with a straight face against marijuana or other illegal drugs, when all we have on TV is commercials from pharmaceutical companies promoting (pushing) drugs? They now make drugs to make other drugs more efficient. It is a racket, and a worse racket than the illegal drug trade, IMHO.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:51 AM   #8
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We never come up with cures anymore,
The only "cures" we have ever come up with are vaccinations and bacteriophages (pennicillin, etc...IOW, antibiotics).

New antibiotics are developed every year.
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:04 AM   #9
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New antibiotics are developed every year.
So what does that say about Bobby Jindal? That he is an inspiration for antibiotics or the reason antibiotics are necessary?
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:03 PM   #10
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The only "cures" we have ever come up with are vaccinations and bacteriophages (pennicillin, etc...IOW, antibiotics).

New antibiotics are developed every year.
We cured polio. Or maybe eradicated is a better word, at least in this country. And TB, although it is on the rise again. Leprosy. Small Pox. Should I continue? We don't even have a vaccine or cure for herpes.

And bacteria are becoming more resistant to all our antibiotics. Even syphilis and gonorrhea are on the rise again, and the new strains are very resistant to antibiotics, probably because ranchers and chicken farmers put them in the food supply, and doctor's write prescriptions for them when they shouldn't. But that is another topic.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:51 AM   #11
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And I have to say, (another thought here), how can anyone say anything with a straight face against marijuana or other illegal drugs, when all we have on TV is commercials from pharmaceutical companies promoting (pushing) drugs? They now make drugs to make other drugs more efficient. It is a racket, and a worse racket than the illegal drug trade, IMHO.
You just made Nancy Reagan cry.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:07 AM   #12
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The ONLY reason why cancer has not been cured, is because it is more profitable for insurance/pharamceutical companies to TREAT it. And yes, I do believe that. Anyone who knows anything about the fraud and greed of pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies knows that is probably the truth.

when I hear things like that it always makes me think of this:
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Old 02-25-2009, 08:39 PM   #13
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when I hear things like that it always makes me think of this:
That is awesome!
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