You're either a citizen or you're not

[classicman]

Oh please start on the rebar. I wanna know how many steel plants/mills we'd have to get going to do this.
It'll never happen - we both know that, but goddamn we gotta get some kind of control over this shit.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by classicman

Oh please start on the rebar. I wanna know how many steel plants/mills we'd have to get going to do this.
It'll never happen - we both know that, but goddamn we gotta get some kind of control over this shit.

Penalize the employers. If there's no jobs, there's no reason to immigrate (outside of CA for free bennies, I mean, but they're all nuts in CA anyway).

Fine the employers til their eyes bleed, including agriculture. The problem will ease up soon enough.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Penalize the employers. If there's no jobs, there's no reason to immigrate (outside of CA for free bennies, I mean, but they're all nuts in CA anyway).

Fine the employers til their eyes bleed, including agriculture. The problem will ease up soon enough.

That's what I say. If there is a stiff penalty, which now there isn't, then employers would quit hiring them and they'd go home. Of course, we would have to quit giving them free govt assistance as well.

As for the crime stuff, I swear, just repeal all the friggin' drug laws and let people grow their own. That would get rid of the crime element. Prices would go down because it would be plentiful. Let things like weed open up a new industry. It's ridiculous that weed is illegal. It's safer than alcohol. And the tax we could collect on it would be astonomical, not to mention we would save on the "drug war." Controlling other certain substances and taxing them, like we did with alcohol, would help with more hardcore drugs. (No, I don't think those drugs are good. But I think drug laws do more harm than the actual drugs.)

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Of course, we would have to quit giving them free govt assistance as well.

and there is the problem.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

and there is the problem.

And I don't understand that...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Decriminalise drugs.

I'm talking about real criminals, not just the drug smugglers which are a nuisance but not nearly as dangerous.

Originally Posted by BrianR

Dredge out the Rio Grande, extend it to the Pacific and make it a navigable canal like the Panama Canal.

That would let the Chinese ships into the Gulf and eliminate a lot of trucking jobs.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I'm talking about real criminals, not just the drug smugglers which are a nuisance but not nearly as dangerous.

Are you joking? The bastards run around with assault rifles and NVGs. Bump into them in the boondocks, they just shoot you.

[xoxoxoBruce]

The majority of the pot, coke & crank coming in is by the tractor trailer load, or plane load, and doesn't go near the boondocks.
The small time smugglers/hustlers that you might find in the boondocks, while they may be dangerous, the real criminals that are committing armed robberies, home invasions, kidnappings and murders, worry me much more. They should have never gotten past the border.